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Quote:It really depends on your definition of “success.” I think Melinda Doolittle is successful! Come on. She’s worked with people like Jonny Lang, makes a living doing music, plays shows, sells albums, etc. If the only way to define success as a musician is of the Kelly Clarkson superstar variety, well then, yeah. Most musicians are destined to be failures. But if Haley puts together some awesome bluesy jazz band, makes a name for herself playing around Chicago, works with the likes of Jonny Lang, and makes a few albums over her career…I think that’s very successful, and very much “living the dream” for someone who wants only to play music for a career. That makes it harder for me to see her play live, sure, but so what? If I really want to see her play, I can get on a plane and go to Chicago. That said, I don’t think Haley is necessarily destined for obscurity. If Adele and Joss Stone can do it, I don’t see why she can’t. (Ok, on second thought, maybe what she really needs to do is move to England.)

Comment by MA – June 17, 2011 09:20 AM PDT

I have said this before, as much as winning would be great, on a selfish note, I’m glad that she isn’t necessarily going to be Stadium famous (although I wouldn’t bet anything against her potential), I will be glad to see her in a more intimate setting, a venue that really compliments the richness and tonal qualities in her voice. You can’t get that in a stadium.

Secondly, because of her versatility and nod to musical past and styles, I imagine, she has more international potential than many of her peers, so like Adam before her, has a wider audience to draw from. Lady Reinhart will do fine.

Comment by Tusk – June 17, 2011 10:56 AM PDT

Quote:Haley is an all around performance artist,she loves singing for the crowed, she can sing almost any genre and if you watched AI the crowed loved her performances,she knows what to do on stage to “WOW” the fans. Haley is not the type to settle for a smokey bar room.I know you would prefer her to sing in your,intimate setting,because it your style and I wouldn’t put it past her to do it because she is good at that too.Haley is an all around performance artist.When she is on stage thousands of people will be eating out of her hands.her concerts will be exciting to watch visually as well as vocally. don’t sell her short, she knows what she wants,she wants to be the best and you can’t do that by singing to 50 people at a time.Haley’s artist vision is so far a head of what most can fathom.

Comment by Jerry – June 17, 2011 01:50 PM PDT

I think a British producer would do wonders with Haley.

Comment by Delon – June 17, 2011 04:12 PM PDT

Quote:Nigel Lythgoe from Wirral, England, (born 9 July 1949)AI executive producer,former dancer and choreographer.was nicknamed “Nasty Nigel” by the British.The man who tried to destroy a young lady’s dream just so he would not be proven wrong about his country dream team.The man is too old and out of touch with what America really wants.His Idea is that Americans are stupid and toys with the psychology of human behavior to manipulate through his film choreography the thought process of the viewers.

Comment by JerryT – June 18, 2011 08:50 AM PDT

or – why not canada! We’d embrace her.

Comment by whynotcanada – June 17, 2011 05:36 PM PDT

Quote:If you Canucks turn her into another Celine Dion we’ll have to come up there and take away your round bacon and your hockey pucks! So be careful! ;-)

Comment by darcy's evil twin – June 17, 2011 09:19 PM PDT

I think it’s like the other person said…define “success”? It’s such a relative term. I’d rather Haley make a stellar album, and be less known, than create a filler album just to get sales. She has the talent, and she knows who she is. Also, maybe Melinda Doolittle and Allison haven’t done well from a numbers standpoint, but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t. Honestly, their albums are far better than a lot of other contestants. I guess it’s just how you look at it. Anyways, looking forward to what’s in store for Haley!

Comment by Jay – June 17, 2011 09:44 AM PDT

Quote:Thing is, I could see Haley having a career like Melinda’s. The girl isn’t really a recording artist, she’s a SINGER. (Or a SAAAAANGER, if you want the appropriate inflection on that.) Haley is a vocalist who’s talent, draw, and power lie in her sitting there in a room right in front of you and making it happen LIVE. I selfishly want recordings and want her to be a mega-star, but she’s going to work as a gigging musician, and A LOT.

Comment by Johnification – June 17, 2011 10:12 AM PDT

Joss Stone–whom I consider to be one of the holy grails of vocal talent, bad-a$$ ballsy-ness, and musical chops–has said that the only REAL musician is a gigging musician. According to her, all recorded music should be free, and musicians should be forced to make their living playing live because that’s where the soul and heart are. I kind of agree with her (unrealistic and idealistic as that may be), and also agree with you. Haley belongs in a smoky bar on a snowy night or at a sunset jazz festival in the sweaty summer. But for our sakes, I hope she records too.

Comment by MA – June 17, 2011 10:35 AM PDT

Quote:“The girl isn’t really a recording artist”

Although I understand the jist of your post, I need to note that Haley’s studio songs are, IMBO,In my biased opinion Wink , far superior than most of the other’s in this season. Earth Song being the best of the Studio recordings. I would list more, but frankly almost all of her studios pale in comparison to her live performances.

Comment by Tusk – June 17, 2011 11:02 AM PDT

Looks like she’s going after Carrie for first-take perfection too. Carrie is nicknamed “one-take” Carrie and I think Haley’s are just as good and more technical. Pretty damned amazing IMO.

Comment by Satchvai – June 17, 2011 11:11 AM PDT

Quote:I agree that Haley’s recordings are good, but I think what John meant was that she’s more than a recording artist. The mainstream music industry is typically looking for people who have a great face and can be turned into studio magic, because for them, that’s where the money is. Staging a tour requires a lot of money up front with no guarantee of return. In some cases, those recording artists are also great performers and singers; in other cases, not so much. But from what I can tell, among musicians, the studio recording isn’t where the respect is; it’s in live performance. And I feel that way as a fan too. If someone sounds good on a recording and sucks live, I lose a lot respect for him/her as a musician. Haley has a stellar live voice. It’s not perfect like a studio recording; it has a beautiful tone but also breaks, cracks, moves, etc. And that sound is raw and sexy and expressive and very real. Plus, she’s got a good stage presence. So one of her strengths lies in the fact that she could be a fantastic gigging musician and could make money doing that. She doesn’t need to rely on the studio or possibly even a record company, if that makes sense.

Comment by MA – June 17, 2011 11:34 AM PDT

Oh, I agree, I was just kind of blown away that those studios were recorded as first-time runs. I play guitar and am as anal-retentive as they come when it comes to studio tracks, doing multiple takes until I’m satisfied. I rarely let a one-time run go through so it just goes to show what kind of chops this girl has for her studios to be one-takes.

I would be interested in seeing what a Haley Reinhart music video would look like with her artistic impulses, I have a feeling it would be pretty amazing.

Comment by Satchvai – June 17, 2011 11:59 AM PDT

Quote:can see Haley doing popular music like some of the aforementioned ladies. I could also see her going to blues/jazz fests too. Now I know she’s not John Mayer (in terms of popularity), but John Mayer can probably write a platinum pop song on command. (See the making of “In Repair”) But he also plays at Eric Clapton’s Crossroads Festival and shows more of his pure blues side and rocking out guitar playing.

I hope she gets a chance to sing with John Mayer someday. It would be great for her career, and I think their voices would sound great together. Just stay waaaaay awaaaaaay from him in terms of romance, Haley.

Comment by MrsFitzDarcy – June 17, 2011 04:41 PM PDT

I have to disagree some what. One of Haley’s greatest strengths lies in her studio recordings. The tone of her voice, and the occasional high lilths and scats she adds to songs are spectacular. You really see her jazz influence in her studio recordings. I find a bit troubling that she hasn’t listened to any of her studio recordings!! It gives me the impression that she preferS to perform live or she has really been turned off by the whole AI experience.

I think it’s important for Haley to keep in mind that AI can be used as a stepping stone for what SHE Really wants to do as an artist. She needs to utilize this opportunity quickly before it fades. She needs to vocalize where she sees herself as an artist within the next couple of years, and she needs to aggressively seek out people who can help her get there.

She is more authentic than many of the other contestants, and I get the impression she doesn’t want to play the hollywood game, because it can be inauthentic or phony at times. ( But Lauren played the Hollywood game very well recently by hinting that she and scotty had a relationship, then denying said realtionship. Lauren was able to get herself a lot of extra press by doing that). I am not saying that Haley should do what lauren did, I’m just saying she may have to give in and play the game a little.

Anyone who reads this site knows that I’m a huge Haley’s fan I simply love her. But my young Haley sometimes gives off the impression that she doesn’t want IT (success/fame) as badly as the other two. I know you want it Haley, you just need to show jimmy and the otherS how much you really, really want it. You have more talent, depth, and star power in your little finger than all the other contestants put together…

Sorry for the long post…I love Haley and I just had to get this message out.

Comment by Haley's Comet – June 17, 2011 02:57 PM PDT

Quote:That’s true, but you’re forgetting that Haley isn’t a typical contestant. Everyone thought she was a goner the first few weeks of idol. But she proved them wrong, she doesn’t seem the type to just settle. She REALLY goes for what she wants. I hope her underdog story continues and she has A LOT of success, and reaches a point where people will recognize her for being Haley Reinhart the artist, and not just the third place contestant on American idol season 10.

Comment by Monica – June 20, 2011 11:54 PM PDT

I think it also depends on what you call success. Melinda Doolittle and Allison Iraheta are working in the music industry, making a living making music — and if you asked them whether they were successful, I think they’d probably say they were.

Comment by Judy – June 17, 2011 10:23 AM PDT

Quote:This girl has such an abundance of gifts to give the world. She will not be denied. Forget about “superstardom” or “filling arenas” or any of that crap. She may become a superstar and fill arenas. She may. But the main thing is that she has something unique to give the world. I have no doubt she will give it. I have no doubt she’ll be happy doing so. Many of us will accept the gift. She’ll be happy and prosperous giving it.

I wish her all the happiness in the world.

Comment by schmozlo – June 17, 2011 05:41 PM PDT

I see you included a quote from me. I'm flattered. My opinion remains the same. She's got it.

What she has is a genuine love for music and performing. Many other artists are in it for the money, the fame, etc. She's in it for the love of music.

Her love of music will inspire her to continue to grow as an artist. She WILL create some GREAT music in her lifetime. Whether the music she creates will become wildly popular is a whole other issue, a separate issue.

She will make a lasting contribution to MUSIC. The "universe" will support that effort. I tend to believe that the "universe" supports those efforts that uplift the "universe". Haley's got the goods.
Oh schmozlo, yes, she surely does!

(07-21-2011, 03:52 AM)schmozlo Wrote: [ -> ]My opinion remains the same. She's got it.

What she has is a genuine love for music and performing. Many other artists are in it for the money, the fame, etc. She's in it for the love of music.

Her love of music will inspire her to continue to grow as an artist. She WILL create some GREAT music in her lifetime. Whether the music she creates will become wildly popular is a whole other issue, a separate issue.

She will make a lasting contribution to MUSIC. The "universe" will support that effort. I tend to believe that the "universe" supports those efforts that uplift the "universe". Haley's got the goods.

Adam Lambert speaking to The Hollywood Reporter at the ASCAP Pop Music Awards in April:

Quote:It's incredible how Haley makes it look so easy and effortless. Plus, she's having fun up there. I don't feel like she's working so hard to prove herself or to prove a point. She's just singing and taking joy in music.

I wish the judges gave her a little bit more praise because what she's doing is technically superb.

(Haley's) putting herself on the map and making her talent known. It's all about relationships and hopefully she's forged some. It doesn't matter what place you end up [in the competition], I'm a testament to that.

And, of course, she now has a record deal. That certainly helps.
Haley has everything it takes to be successful, talent, looks & charisma. Personally, I hope her success is understated & dynamic. In other words, I am not looking for another Katy Perry or Lady GaGa. She has the goods to be a timeless artist, I just hope Interscope does justice by her.
I agree she has all those things. She also has a belief in herself and a drive to succeed. Given all that, I think it is almost a sure thing she will make a comfortable living doing what she loves.

Can she make it to the top? She has stated she wants to and won't stop until she does. She has also said she wants to influence music and inspire others. The question is, if the success she achieves surpasses or meets her wildest expectations can she handle vast fame and fortune?

I hope so. I've never been emotionally invested in a performer and it will be a sad day for me should she ever lose her happy nature and the joy she finds in performing.

Jimmy Iovine in the setup to her Bennie and the Jets performance on AI:

Quote:She moves great, she has great tone, and she has a great style of singing.