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RE: Idol ratings drop -- Did they shoot themselves in the foot in shooting down Haley? - Miguel - 05-23-2012 Quote:‘Idol’ Grapples With Its Own Competition I stand by the assertion that I made in the first post of this thread back in January: Quote:A lot of things likely contributed to the decline, but I can't help but think back to how the Idol audience for the performance finale dropped by three million people when Haley was eliminated. By that point, the machinations of the show had been laid bare and it was clear to even casual observers that the judging in the later rounds was biased against Haley. No doubt many people -- new viewers and longtime viewers alike -- were left with such a bad taste in their mouth they swore off watching the show again. RE: Idol ratings drop -- Did they shoot themselves in the foot in shooting down Haley? - buzzenator - 05-23-2012 (05-23-2012, 09:27 AM)Miguel Wrote: I stand by the assertion that I made in the first post of this thread back in January: This guy articulated what we all knew about last year's finale...without Haley it was only a country music teen showdown...lost a lot of viewers as a result. Quote:"American Idol" Loser Memorial: When A Fan Loves an Idol You were right on Miguel with your earlier post. Something happened on Tuesday night's final performances that reinforced this view. I did watch the final performances last night. I looked at my wife and said, why do they make them perform these newly written songs that are always so bad. So, here is Randy & Jlo trashing the song for Jessica which she didn't pick and Idol provided...shooting Idol and themselves in the foot. It didn't end there...Phillip performs his final song written for him and Idol. My wife and I both said after the performance that it was a terrible song, and she is a huge P2 fan. Low and behold the judges give P2 a standing ovation...raving about the song and Phillip's performance. It was another total disconnect from what the viewer is seeing and hearing. We were both laughing at the judges comments and it just reinforced how Idol can be perceived as irrelevant or lame in the music world. RE: Idol ratings drop -- Did they shoot themselves in the foot in shooting down Haley? - Flask Man - 05-23-2012 My take... 1. Bad start. "Auditions" and "Hollywood Week" have become so stale, boring and predictable that nobody cares anymore. The live shows begin with very little buzz as a result. 2. The Joshua Effect. The judges literally gave him a standing ovation every performance, every show, the entire season, starting in Hollywood. In addition, they told him he was he greatest singer of the past 50 years, best to ever appear on a talent show, best to ever live, and best that any of them have ever seen or heard. The desperation pimping was so flagrant it turned the judges and the show into laughingstocks. 3. Lack of dynamic talent. The "big moments" that create water cooler discussion and buzz were not there, and the "standing ovations" were obviously predetermined and contrived. Without any "wow" factor apathy sets in. 4. No sex appeal. Last season had Haley and Pia, and it doesn't get any hotter than that. Guys love ogling and drooling over hot babes, and the fact that these girls also happened to be tremendous singers made it legit. The girls had their Fano eye-candy to heart-throb over, too. This year? Nothing. 5. The Season 10 shadow. Last year had a heavy impact on this year, more than ever, because fans were not letting go of their previous season Idols like before. Not only Haliens, but also McReerians, Durbinators, Alainers, etc, all clung to their AI10 favorites so tightly that they never got their hearts behind this season's bland crop. 6. Talent show burnout. Too many singing competitions now, so everything runs together. When Idol was the only gig in town it meant more. Now? It's sometimes hard to keep track of who's on what show. The Voice, X-Factor, Idol, America's Got Talent, Duets....ENOUGH! I'm done with it. RE: Idol ratings drop -- Did they shoot themselves in the foot in shooting down Haley? - john - 05-23-2012 I can envision Nigel doing something that "jumps the shark" next year which may turn out to be the death knell for idol. RE: Idol ratings drop -- Did they shoot themselves in the foot in shooting down Haley? - gillyking - 05-23-2012 (05-23-2012, 11:38 AM)Flask Man Wrote: My take...Flaskman.... Very incitefull! I cannot tell you how sickening we felt the outrageous pimping of Joshua was. It was so insulting at times that we actually became totally turned off by ALL of the judging commentaries. How pitiful was it watching J-Blo having to get the nod from Randy before she would stand up? Yikes.. The outrageous proclamations of this being the greatest talented season in AI history.. how ignorant! My wife didn't even want to watch AI until it got pared down to the top 10. She's done with it for the future and maybe me too. It's been our honest belief that the winner of AI was pre-determined long ago and that phoney baloney BS "save" of Jessica Sanchez was scripted all along! Your sex appeal statement couldn't be more significant! Totally concur. RE: Idol ratings drop -- Did they shoot themselves in the foot in shooting down Haley? - brandon70 - 05-23-2012 When a guy as marginally talented as Philip Phillips wins the title, it isn't difficult to understand why the show is loosing popularity. RE: Idol ratings drop -- Did they shoot themselves in the foot in shooting down Haley? - Flask Man - 05-23-2012 Phillip's a marginal talent? Gotta call that out. He's a very skilled musician and artist who never sold out. He might not be everyone's preferred style, but he's got skills. RE: Idol ratings drop -- Did they shoot themselves in the foot in shooting down Haley? - midnightblues - 05-23-2012 Yeah he has singing skills, Takes after DM. kinda RE: Idol ratings drop -- Did they shoot themselves in the foot in shooting down Haley? - Miguel - 05-24-2012 Quote:...what about all these cute boys? Where is their overabundance of luck coming from?... when texting broke 178 million per season during Season 8 – the year of Kris Allen’s surprise victory – it still only accounted for a small fraction of the total votes. Myth of the Tweeny Texter Tyrants: Busted! http://www.hollywood.com/news/American_Idol_Finale_predictions_Phillip_phillips_winner/28394260 RE: Idol ratings drop -- Did they shoot themselves in the foot in shooting down Haley? - john - 05-24-2012 (05-24-2012, 09:42 AM)Miguel Wrote: Yet, the median age is still on rise and we’re poised to see another cute southern young man take the title while talented folks like Skylar Laine and Joshua Ledet join the list of unappreciated Idol contestants like past cast-offs Blake Lewis, Haley Reinhart, and Elliott Yamin, all of whom are missing check marks in either the “cute,” “boy,” or “Southern” check boxes. So, which box is missing for Joshua? Is "cute" a euphemism? Quote:That way, we aren’t subjected to the will of the mega voters as we watch our perfectly reasonable single votes crushed under their weight of the Cute Boy Army, whatever age and gender they may actually be. Idol's "one person, unlimited votes" model seems to be part of their quest for young voters since oldsters can't match the voting pace and persistence of teenagers. Of course it also allows them to tout big vote counts. http://www.hollywood.com/news/American_Idol_Finale_predictions_Phillip_phillips_winner/28394260 [/quote] |