(04-29-2015, 02:34 PM)Jastal Wrote: I am really wondering if Haley sang the new songs publicly to help her team decide the "final" songs to put on the EP. For me the studio version is usually the one that best introduces a new song and I can't understand why she would want to show her "best" new songs in a stripped down live venue. We know she has other songs so I wonder if all the previews are for those songs she isn't so sure about (regarding inclusion in the EP).

(04-29-2015, 02:39 PM)Tusk Wrote: I'm a little confused that she said Good or Bad and Lover Girl might make the EP mainly because they probably just wrote it in the UK, and it kind of sounded from what Harry told me, that they'd already recorded the songs for the EP back when he recorded them with Haley, Jacob, Brandon and Quinton in Westwood studios and the songs are being produced already for the EP

(04-28-2015, 01:54 AM)john Wrote:

(04-27-2015, 11:29 PM)Merlin Wrote: 6. Better (The line "I threw your ring into the ocean" is honestly so horrible and cringeworthy that it pulls me out of the song every time, the music's good though. Maybe I'll come around on it.)

(04-28-2015, 01:32 AM)XAtlantic Wrote: Funny how different tastes are ... I personally would also not put "Better" at the very top of my list, but it is just those lines that I like again and again, yes, with all their drama and cliche, totally works for me ... !

It took me a couple of listens to warm up to that line, but I'm fine with it. As far as cliche's go, I don't have a problem incorporating a cliche into a song if it is done well and fits. To me the real cliches in songs are often the predictable rhyming lyrics like fire - desire, or worn out metaphors about storms, hearts, mountains, etc.

(05-01-2015, 10:06 AM)rmd1064 Wrote: Here is my .02 on the new music and upcoming EP…sorry for the long post!

Based on the songs I am aware of , here is my suggestion for the 6 songs on the EP entitled “Better”

• Better
• Good Or Bad
• Lover Girl
• My Cake
• ROCKER TBD
• Love Is Worth Fighting For

I think someone mentioned that she may have auditioned “Good Or Bad” vs “Lover Girl” at her recent show to get audience/YouTube reaction and feedback. I think “Good Or Bad” is the stronger song because of how it builds into a powerful rocker and shows Haley’s range. “Lover Girl” is a very cool song, and Haley sings it so sexily that I really like it too. I am not a huge fan of “Better” as I agree there is a little too much repetition, but it is a bit of an ear-worm, and it has an empowering message. “My Cake” is just a fun catchy song that Haley can play with and I think it fits her like a glove.

I hope she does not leave out “Love Is Worth Fighting For” as I think this song is so powerful and moving in many ways and could be done with a very simple accompaniment. This is the kind of song that could be a viral hit given how well Haley can belt it out. As a matter of fact, I think LIWFF could be the name of the EP to specifically highlight that song.

The one wild card is what I am calling ROCKER TBD. I really hope that Haley does another song in the spirit of “Keep Coming Back” or “Spiderweb” just to show her rocking growler chops. It could be a cover perhaps, and “I Hear You Knockin” by Fats Domino is maybe a consideration. One other wild card is a song like “Black Velvet” that could highlight her voice in a big way, like “Creep” or earlier songs “I Who Have Nothing” or HOTRS.

Regarding expectations for the EP, I think Ole would hope that her Halien fan base would quickly buy up thousands of copies in the first week and maybe it would chart on iTunes for a week or more. I don’t think we can expect a “hit” song given Ole probably does not have the resources to push out a single for radio play, etc. They are not a record label. I am hoping that Ole funds a video of at least one song, and Haley can tour in 10-15 cities with a band as part of the release.

Long term, I really just want Haley to continue to make music and work with a great band and release a new CD/EP and tour every year or so. If she happens to have a hit song, that would be great, but to me it would just be great to see her live, fronting a band, and building her fan base.

(05-01-2015, 04:56 PM)Rachbobach09 Wrote:

(05-01-2015, 10:06 AM)rmd1064 Wrote: Here is my .02 on the new music and upcoming EP…sorry for the long post!

Based on the songs I am aware of , here is my suggestion for the 6 songs on the EP entitled “Better”

• Better
• Good Or Bad
• Lover Girl
• My Cake
• ROCKER TBD
• Love Is Worth Fighting For

I think someone mentioned that she may have auditioned “Good Or Bad” vs “Lover Girl” at her recent show to get audience/YouTube reaction and feedback. I think “Good Or Bad” is the stronger song because of how it builds into a powerful rocker and shows Haley’s range. “Lover Girl” is a very cool song, and Haley sings it so sexily that I really like it too. I am not a huge fan of “Better” as I agree there is a little too much repetition, but it is a bit of an ear-worm, and it has an empowering message. “My Cake” is just a fun catchy song that Haley can play with and I think it fits her like a glove.

I hope she does not leave out “Love Is Worth Fighting For” as I think this song is so powerful and moving in many ways and could be done with a very simple accompaniment. This is the kind of song that could be a viral hit given how well Haley can belt it out. As a matter of fact, I think LIWFF could be the name of the EP to specifically highlight that song.

The one wild card is what I am calling ROCKER TBD. I really hope that Haley does another song in the spirit of “Keep Coming Back” or “Spiderweb” just to show her rocking growler chops. It could be a cover perhaps, and “I Hear You Knockin” by Fats Domino is maybe a consideration. One other wild card is a song like “Black Velvet” that could highlight her voice in a big way, like “Creep” or earlier songs “I Who Have Nothing” or HOTRS.

Regarding expectations for the EP, I think Ole would hope that her Halien fan base would quickly buy up thousands of copies in the first week and maybe it would chart on iTunes for a week or more. I don’t think we can expect a “hit” song given Ole probably does not have the resources to push out a single for radio play, etc. They are not a record label. I am hoping that Ole funds a video of at least one song, and Haley can tour in 10-15 cities with a band as part of the release.

Long term, I really just want Haley to continue to make music and work with a great band and release a new CD/EP and tour every year or so. If she happens to have a hit song, that would be great, but to me it would just be great to see her live, fronting a band, and building her fan base.

I enjoyed the long post! It's good to know I'm not the only one who goes so into depth about all of Haley's songs.

It's hard to imagine all of the songs we already know being 5 or even all 6 songs on the EP. As much as we want them, I think we might have to accept there might be 3 new ones, maybe more? Who knows though. I'd like to think if she gets to make an LP a year after the EP is released or so then she'll fit all our favorites & some more new ones onto an album.