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CHFIL vs Undone discussion - buzzenator - 10-23-2015
Note from Miguel: This thread began as part of the "Haley Reinhart for Extra Gum: 'Can't Help Falling in Love'" thread
We all thought Undone was a big hit, but Haley didn't like to perform it. Ironic that her new hit ICHFIL, a grand slam, brings the same emotion to the equation as Undone...listen to the Haliens.
RE: Haley Reinhart for Extra Gum: "Can't Help Falling in Love" - Tusk - 10-23-2015
I disagree, Thematically and emotionally, Undone has more similarities to "Free" and "Better" than it does CHFIL
IMO Undone is a song about lost love and longing for that love, whereas CHFIL is a song about loving and being in love
The former is about looking back at what was, the latter is about looking forward...
RE: Haley Reinhart for Extra Gum: "Can't Help Falling in Love" - Himm2 - 10-23-2015
"Can't Help Falling In Love" tugs at all the deep emotional strings as does "Undone" they're just different kinds of strings so I understand what Buzz is getting at.
RE: Haley Reinhart for Extra Gum: "Can't Help Falling in Love" - NUG - 10-23-2015
Funny I was just thinking about this today - I agree with the Undone comparison in that, Haley brings the sound of a tear to her voice both in Undone and CHFIL. The magic of Undone was when she quietly sang, "Tell me where love goes..." and she does the thing with her voice, prettier than a crack, but like choking back a tear none the less. I can't quite describe it. Quiet and bare emotion.
RE: Haley Reinhart for Extra Gum: "Can't Help Falling in Love" - buzzenator - 10-23-2015
(10-23-2015, 05:45 PM)Tusk Wrote: I disagree, Thematically and emotionally, Undone has more similarities to "Free" and "Better" than it does CHFIL
IMO Undone is a song about lost love and longing for that love, whereas CHFIL is a song about loving and being in love
The former is about looking back at what was, the latter is about looking forward...
To clarify...I should have written...brings out a strong emotional response...both Undone and CHFIL. Both affected young females as we witnessed at Buffalo Grove days and as intended by Extra Gum marketing. So, right back at you with the disagree Tusk.
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^ What NUG said...which was more articulate than what I said.
RE: Haley Reinhart for Extra Gum: "Can't Help Falling in Love" - NUG - 10-23-2015
Buzz, great minds think alike.
RE: Haley Reinhart for Extra Gum: "Can't Help Falling in Love" - buzzenator - 10-23-2015
(10-23-2015, 06:28 PM)NUG Wrote: Buzz, great minds think alike.
That's why we are Haliens...and why Haley loves us so much...well most of us!
RE: Haley Reinhart for Extra Gum: "Can't Help Falling in Love" - Tusk - 10-23-2015
"Brings the same emotion" "Different kinds of strings"
Maple and Oak are both types of wood... I expect an architect would use one over the other depending on what he's building and how strong he needs his material to be
Water and Oil are both paints, yet require completely different techniques from the artist.
Undone pulls from a different emotional well, one that Haley has said more than once, she is not particularly comfotable with, even said she needed help writing it.
CHFIL, as it is illustrated in the ad, is about discovering love, it's 'warm and fuzzy' where as Undone, Free and Better are not, there's bitterness, abandonment and regret... as a singer, to pull off these completely different emotions, Haley would need to draw from two different sources.
So Yes they're both 'emotional songs', but the conclusion that they are the same, therefore Haley should have no problem singing one and not the other, is not correct.
You dip your brush in black ink, doesn't mean you will paint the same picture as you would if the brush went into the red well....
Undone is not one of my favorites, but I agree, she should've given it a chance and see where it could take her. But to say that just because Undone is emotional, and CHFIL is emotional, means she should feel the same way about both, does not take into account the different sources she pulls from to sing either song.
RE: Haley Reinhart for Extra Gum: "Can't Help Falling in Love" - buzzenator - 10-23-2015
(10-23-2015, 06:43 PM)Tusk Wrote: "Brings the same emotion" "Different kinds of strings"
Maple and Oak are both types of wood... I expect an architect would use one over the other depending on what he's building and how strong he needs his material to be
Water and Oil are both paints, yet require completely different techniques from the artist.
Undone pulls from a different emotional well, one that Haley has said more than once, she is not particularly comfotable with, even said she needed help writing it.
CHFIL, as it is illustrated in the ad, is about discovering love, it's 'warm and fuzzy' where as Undone, Free and Better are not, there's bitterness, abandonment and regret... as a singer, to pull off these completely different emotions, Haley would need to draw from two different sources.
So Yes they're both 'emotional songs', but the conclusion that they are the same, therefore Haley should have no problem singing one and not the other, is not correct.
You dip your brush in black ink, doesn't mean you will paint the same picture as you would if the brush went into the red well....
Undone is not one of my favorites, but I agree, she should've given it a chance and see where it could take her. But to say that just because Undone is emotional, and CHFIL is emotional, means she should feel the same way about both, does not take into account the different sources she pulls from to sing either song.
Buzz straining to reach for the keyboard...well, water-based paints, oil-based paints and latex-based paints are all paints...but water and oil are not paints. Doesn't change the basic concept that Haley's voice singing Undone or CHFIL draws from the same emotional heart strings...even though rejection and love are different, both are fraternal twins emotionally. Buzz with a shot down the line...just in!
RE: Haley Reinhart for Extra Gum: "Can't Help Falling in Love" - Himm2 - 10-23-2015
(10-23-2015, 06:54 PM)buzzenator Wrote: Buzz with a shot down the line...just in!
a score at the buzzer!