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Crazy Jimmy Iovine, Chinese Democracy and more - Miguel - 12-05-2011

Quote:Chinese Democracy is the sixth studio album by American hard rock band Guns N' Roses, released in November 2008 on Geffen Records. It is the band's first studio album since "The Spaghetti Incident?" (1993), released exactly 15 years before Chinese Democracy...

Quote:AVC: Chinese Democracy took all of 10 years to make. What was the recording process like? I mean, you couldn’t have been working at it every day for 10 years.

TS: At first we were in there a lot. We were working on the writing aspect of it, but it just kept going on. We had [Interscope Chairman] Jimmy Iovine intervening in a not-so-productive way, and we had other guys coming and going with nutty ideas. My summation of the whole thing is that Interscope, when they took over Geffen, really led Axl to believe that Jimmy Iovine would be involved, and would help get this record done and make it happen. But basically what he did was let it completely fall apart. Then he had this great idea to bring in [producer] Roy Thomas Baker to make it sound better. All he did was re-record everything three or four different times, trying to make it sound like something it didn’t need to sound like, and spend $10 million in the process. My two cents on the whole thing is that I really think Jimmy Iovine fucked the whole thing up.

It was a bummer. Most of the songs that are on the record now were done 10 fucking years ago. But all the talking heads in the mix were saying, “Make ’em sound better! Make ’em sound better!” So we kept redoing this and that. And it ended up coming back down to the same fucking songs that they were 10 years ago, except that now they were a super-dense mishmash of a bunch of instrumentation. That whole era pretty much sums up what happened to the record industry. Those kinds of people, making those kinds of decisions and not really helping the artist.


Jimmy gives Will.i.am creative feedback:

Quote:"I went to play material for the label and Jimmy Iovine’s like, 'Yo, this is dope. Who are you gonna put on it?'," Will says. "I’m like, 'What are you talking about? It’s finished, it’s me.' So, he’s like, 'Oh, you don’t feature no one?'"

"You play your music and the first thing someone says, 'Who’s gonna be on it?' So I think of the hardest thing ever," he says. "And it happened, Mick Jagger. I just wanted to throw something out there that I thought could never be possible so they would stop asking me."

"T.H.E. (The Hardest Ever)" also brought Iovine back to producing for the first time in decades. The Interscope chairman, who has worked with U2, Tom Petty, Stevie Nicks and many more, produced Jagger's vocals at Will's suggestion. "Jimmy’s like, 'Will.i.am, Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones are like my Tribe Called Quest, my De La Soul, my N.W.A. I wanted to be like Mick when I was young,'" Will says.

It turns out, however, that Jagger and Iovine had never worked together, much to Will's surprise. So he convinced Iovine to come out of production retirement for Jagger's part of the song. "He produced Mick’s vocals, and this was the proudest moment of my life," Will says. "Winning a Grammy is cool, but the guy who helped you out – and then you got to see him execute one of his dreams – that’s just the dopest ever."

Iovine also contributed to the track by calling Jennifer Lopez, who will be performing tonight with Will when he unveils the song at the American Music Awards. For Will, debuting a solo song on a national stage with Lopez is very special. "I collaborate in the Peas all the time, but this is the first time I’ve ever done big collaborations with big-name artists on my solo projects," he says. "So it means a lot that J. Lo’s even considered performing with me, that’s dope. She’s great."


Jimmy strikes it rich in rap:

Quote:Steve Stoute sat down with fellow music industry legend Jimmy Iovine last week, to film the second episode of Stoute's ongoing video series with Huffington Post's Black Voices. Titled 'The Tanning Effect,' the subject matter is based on Stoute's new book, 'The Tanning of America: How Hip-Hop Created a Culture That Rewrote the Rules of the New Economy.'

In the interview, the Interscope chairman discusses his entrance into hip-hop, breaking barriers with Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg's 'Nuthin But a G Thang' and discovering Eminem.

"I'm not a pioneer of hip-hop, I just saw it and said 'This thing is incredible, and these people are incredible. They should be exposed all over the world," Iovine said, of breaking Dre and Snoop into the mainstream.

"At the time, Dre was on fire. He also came off a weak album, but he was just so in touch," Iovine explained, of his introduction to Eminem. "A kid came into my office, I used to be an intern, so I always like to help interns, so the kid came into my office, and he said, 'I heard this white guy last night rapping.' Again, I'm not a pioneer of rap, I'm not some guy who discovered the genre, so I always heard that white rappers don't work. I said, 'I'll tell you what, you did a really good job, if you give me a CD, I'll play it for Dr. Dre.'"

Within minutes of hearing Eminem's CD, Dre called Iovine up and instructed him to bring him the Detroit MC out to Los Angeles for a meeting, despite protests from his inner circle.

"The guys in Dre's studio at the time were trying to talk him out of it, while Eminem was in town working," Iovine continued. "Dre said 'I don't care what you think, this is gonna work.' And they made 'My Name Is.'"


RE: Crazy Jimmy Iovine, Chinese Democracy and more - john - 12-09-2011

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ETA: I watched a clip where Stevie Nicks talked about the song Edge of Seventeen. She said that it was (mostly) written for John Lennon after he was shot. She never knew him personally but she came to know him through the stories related by Jimmy Iovine, her boyfriend at the time, who had worked with him a lot during the 1970s.

What the heck, Stevie's a good story teller:

RE: Crazy Jimmy Iovine, Chinese Democracy and more - Miguel - 12-09-2011

Jimmy looks a little bit crazy in that picture.

RE: Crazy Jimmy Iovine, Chinese Democracy and more - Miguel - 12-10-2011

(12-09-2011, 08:33 PM)john Wrote: What the heck, Stevie's a good story teller.

Thanks for the link. I never knew "Edge Of Seventeen" was about death.

According to Wikipedia, Prince would have been around 23 then (a few years before Purple Rain fame). Stevie around 33. And Jimmy was 28. Huh, I thought he was older than her. Born in 1953, he would have been in his early twenties when he was working with John Lennon in the mid-1970s.

Stevie's first solo tour was excellent. They did "do good." I had always thought she was in her twenties at the time. Tying this back to Haley, imagine how polished she might be 12 years from now.