"Undone" general discussion (split from interview thread)

[midnightblues]

Did I miss something? I didn't see the coment Miguel made, AS long as I have bin on this site Miguel has never made a racest coment Good call Tusk, Hate is just a byproduct of racism.

[Halien Grandma]

Did I miss something? I didn't see the coment Miguel made, AS long as I have bin on this site Miguel has never made a racest coment

Asian Dude was referencing a comment made by Miguel (page 4) re a Black-American couple. I was merely pointing out that other demographics DO have their ''flavor'' of music, based upon my own personal experience. I truly mean it when I say that the young people, around here, are listening to music from their native lands! This isn't racist; this is a fact! I doubt that I'm the only person who has experienced this too. And there's nothing wrong with it. But it's really great when those people from other countries/races love our Haley! And I believe that this is what Miguel was pointing out.

[midnightblues]

OK thanx . This site here hosts different races, but also the common denominator is Haley Reinhart. We are the Haley fan clan.

[Halien Grandma]

OK thanx . This site here hosts different races, but also the common denominator is Haley Reinhart. We are the Haley fan clan.

You are absolutely right!!! We are a demographic to be reckoned with!!! LOL

[Miguel]

Asian Dude was referencing a comment made by Miguel (page 4) re a Black-American couple. I was merely pointing out that other demographics DO have their ''flavor'' of music, based upon my own personal experience.

The TV show features a black couple and the audience is primarily African-American. Many of those who responded positively to Haley's music appeared to be in their twenties and thirties.

I wasn't suggesting that blacks only listen to certain types of music but rather there was a sizable audience of AA who were hearing Haley for the first time.

Marketers talk demographics all the time:

http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/cons...ans-ready/

[Halien Grandma]

The TV show features a black couple and the audience is primarily African-American. Many of those who responded positively to Haley's music appeared to be in their twenties and thirties.

I wasn't suggesting that blacks only listen to certain types of music but rather there was a sizable audience of AA who were hearing Haley for the first time.

Marketers talk demographics all the time:

http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/cons...ans-ready/

Thanks for explaining what you meant. Regardless, I absolutely did not see that anything you said was racist in any way.

[Himm2]

I promise not to use the term: "Teenie Booper" for fear that I will be labeled as Tusk said - "an Ageist" here. Now where did I leave my walker?

[Asian Dude]

Gotcha. Thanks for explaining it y'all. I thought Miguel thinks af-ams don't listen to Haley's kind of music. Others' examples were a little incoherent to the context of what I was trying to say but I still appreciate them and I will learn from them, surely.

[john]

I just went through the last few hundred tweets that showed up under a "Haley Reinhart" search and tallied the number of mentions of various songs (or lyrics or links to a song). Here's what I found:

Undone -- 80
Free -- 24
BATJ -- 6
HOTRS -- 5
Oh My -- 4
HTGR -- 3
Other -- 23 (KCB, HTRJ, CFMWH, Spiderweb, Liar, Moanin, Wonderland, YAI, ES, Fallin', WOH, GBTC, BICO, WT, YRGAHOM, LRA, OD, FM (IRBY), GPandL)

[jjames865]

I searched several of Haley's songs on YouTube to get a quick count on the number of views the various songs had received (each having multiple uploads). Studio versions only.

Here's my quick, dirty and rounded off view counts:
Undone -- 471,000
Oh My -- 140,000
Let's Run Away -- 117,000
Spiderweb -- 91,000
Wasted Tears -- 67,000
Hit the Ground Runnin' -- 63,000

I found over 75,000 views of covers of Undone. I found about 400 views of 2 "covers" of Oh My.

Quick view for count for the IheartRadio performances:
Undone -- 41,000
Oh My -- 6,800

Undone is the song that could give Haley a hit.

I would have to think Haley is aware of the overall enthusiasm for “Undone”. What I find interesting is in the face of this apparent enthusiasm she continues to lobby for “Oh My!” as her next single. She has also shied away from making “Undone” a regular on her performance playlist. Why?

I think the answer is multi-faceted with possible explanations below:
1) “Undone” is the least throwback song on the album and Haley is probably reluctant to have her first real successful single be a pop ballad.
2) Although there are “downer” songs on Listen Up!, all-in-all “Undone” is #1. A Downer song does not accurately represent what Haley wants the public to fall in love with.
3) “Undone” may be the least fun song to sing vocally. We all know that Haley likes to mix-it-up vocally and “Undone” IMO would be tough to make different with every performance.

If there really is a power struggle ongoing between TPTB at Interscope for “Undone” and Haley for “Oh My!” and Haley is fighting for that identity as an artist she wants to be seen as, I admire her for her principles.

The only advice I might give Haley is that “Undone” may be a means to an end. She might actually be able to afford a full band (if that's what she wants and not just what her fans want) and a full tour.