Haley touring with PMJ -- Feb 2015 - March 2016 (& March 2017)

[john]

Radiohead was successfully sued for plagiarism by Albert Hammond and Mike Hazlewood for similarities between Creep and their song with the Hollies, The Air that I Breath. They are now credited as co-writers of "Creep."

Here is a mash-up of the two songs.

[Tusk]

My Dad was a HUGE fan of the Hollies in England (their most recognisable member, Graham Nash, who left the Hollies to be the "Nash" in Crosby, Stills & Nash (& Young). They were considered a 'super group' in England...

I get that artists are due what they are due, but honestly, it can't be easy being a songwriter, what Haley wants to make as the foundation of her musical career, because of all the potential for legal action because a song might have a few instances of similarity with a song you wrote.

I mean what's the difference between paying homage and being influenced by past artists you admire, and out and out plagiarism?

I feel bad for musical artists of today, for that reason. Just like there's very rarely, a 'new story to be told', to navigate song writing w/o having to be sued for plagiarism is a significant and sometimes unfair obstacle

I mean, I hear an 'Everly Brothers" influence of "All I Need is the Air That I Breathe" in the chorus

Think of all the old bluesmen of the past, how many songs in modern music could be said to have taken from their music?

[pennylane]

Radiohead was successfully sued for plagiarism by Albert Hammond and Mike Hazlewood for similarities between Creep and their song with the Hollies, The Air that I Breath. They are now credited as co-writers of "Creep."

Here is a mash-up of the two songs.

This was a very interesting video of the combination of the 2 songs

[My Alter Ego]

I get that artists are due what they are due, but honestly, it can't be easy being a songwriter, what Haley wants to make as the foundation of her musical career, because of all the potential for legal action because a song might have a few instances of similarity with a song you wrote.

I mean what's the difference between paying homage and being influenced by past artists you admire, and out and out plagiarism?

I feel bad for musical artists of today, for that reason. Just like there's very rarely, a 'new story to be told', to navigate song writing w/o having to be sued for plagiarism is a significant and sometimes unfair obstacle.

I agree, Tusk and this isn't the first time I've had that thought. Really, the surprise is that it doesn't happen more frequently. There are twelve notes in a chromatic scale, and then you repeat. The octave may be higher or lower, but the notes are the same. Then there are 13 major keys. If you add in minor keys and the modes, the complexity level increases, but it takes quite a bit of musical sophistication to take on, particularly modes, so we rarely hear it in popular music. Then, of course, there is the fact that, in popular music anyway, there is a certain chord progression that is, if not taught, then certainly planted in minds to one degree or another. Again the surprise is that a later song may (very coincidentally) strongly resemble an earlier one (known as plagiarism, when financially useful to some)? Given that many "writing/performing" pop music may not have much musical training, it's truly amazing that this doesn't happen much more frequently.

[Tusk]

On 01/02/2015 you wrote:

I Started my channel Oct 12, 2012, I got my 1500th subscriber July 9th, 2014. so it took 21 months. 71.5 subscribers a month up 'til then. Since July, I've gained 679 subscribers, an average of 113 subscribers a month, almost a 60% increase in subscribers per month. 31% of my total subscriptions have come in the last six months

1500+679=2179. I see that you have 2844 subscribers now. So, in less than three months you have picked up 665 subscribers if my number are right. That would mean you've been picking up subscribers at a rate of well over 200 a month this year - about double the rate from the last six months of 2014.

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Just hit the 3,000 subscriber Plateau

So if this is right, I gained 821 subscriber since Jan 2? ... wow

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One of the videos that have had a boost because of the PMJ is Haley's Hotel Cafe "Sitting on the The Dock of the Bay", latest comment ...

Jessee Hartsock2 hours ago

Kinda reminded me of Dolly Parton here. She's awesome. Check her out on PMJ.

This Turbo boost to 3K subscribers is directly attributed to PMJ, cool that there's a place for PMJ fans to check out more Haley performances

[Tusk]

Scott Bradlee @scottbradlee · 11h 11 hours ago
New PMJ video comes out tomorrow - spread the word...

Tusk ‏@HaleysTusk 7m7 minutes ago
Wait, didn't @HaleyReinhart shoot two vids when @PMJofficial shot Euro ed. "All About That Bass"? Could tomorrow's new vid have Haley in it?

PJ ‏@PJHaleyR 6m6 minutes ago
@HaleysTusk I think she did 3 based on wardrobe changes. One was she and Casey as background singers

Tusk ‏@HaleysTusk 4m4 minutes ago
@PJHaleyR Looks like the 50s themed one w/ Von Smith will probably be the one tomorrow

PJ ‏@PJHaleyR 1m1 minute ago
@HaleysTusk that one was Style by TSwift. they did it live in Switzerland

[john]

Could be this one

[john]

A copy of videos that I've enjoyed from the tour are of Casey in St. Niklaas, Belgium.
He in fine OTT form and the audience is right there with him. The first video is Rude, which Casey performed until that one guy joined the tour. The other is of INTOO.

[Kevin]

On 01/02/2015 you wrote:

I Started my channel Oct 12, 2012, I got my 1500th subscriber July 9th, 2014. so it took 21 months. 71.5 subscribers a month up 'til then. Since July, I've gained 679 subscribers, an average of 113 subscribers a month, almost a 60% increase in subscribers per month. 31% of my total subscriptions have come in the last six months

1500+679=2179. I see that you have 2844 subscribers now. So, in less than three months you have picked up 665 subscribers if my number are right. That would mean you've been picking up subscribers at a rate of well over 200 a month this year - about double the rate from the last six months of 2014.

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Just hit the 3,000 subscriber Plateau

So if this is right, I gained 821 subscriber since Jan 2? ... wow

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One of the videos that have had a boost because of the PMJ is Haley's Hotel Cafe "Sitting on the The Dock of the Bay", latest comment ...

Jessee Hartsock2 hours ago

Kinda reminded me of Dolly Parton here. She's awesome. Check her out on PMJ.

This Turbo boost to 3K subscribers is directly attributed to PMJ, cool that there's a place for PMJ fans to check out more Haley performances

I only subscribe when I like the overall content, I suspect most people are like that. So, kudos to you Tusk. PMJ may have brought them to your door, but the quality and quantity of the product was the reason they subscribed.

[Tusk]

Thnx

I still don't get how number of subscribers translates to helping with views because I have decent videos that don't come near 3,000 views so I'll consider it more a number that can help in figuring out 'monetazation' for those who can take advantage of the system

The main reason d'etre for the channel is for those who want to search out more Haley performances have a place with many they can chose from and enjoy.

It's also why "Haley's Journey" is important to the channel, gives you a better sense of the woman/artist behind the voice