"CREEP" - PMJ studio version with HALEY

[popfly38]

I agree with Init that the pass will likely happen on the 14th. I'll pick the 15th anyway based on the observation that there seems to be an organized effort to maintain We Can't Stop in the top spot. It's been neck and neck with AATB for months but every time the difference drops below 1000 a burst of views for We Can't Stop pushes it ahead. This happened most recently last week when AATB approached to within 600 views now the difference is back up to 5000. I'm sure there will be some resistance but Creep has just too much momentum so I think the pass may be on the 15th.

[dswim2]

I agree with Init that the pass will likely happen on the 14th. I'll pick the 15th anyway based on the observation that there seems to be an organized effort to maintain We Can't Stop in the top spot. It's been neck and neck with AATB for months but every time the difference drops below 1000 a burst of views for We Can't Stop pushes it ahead. This happened most recently last week when AATB approached to within 600 views now the difference is back up to 5000. I'm sure there will be some resistance but Creep has just too much momentum so I think the pass may be on the 15th.

I feel kinda bad for Robyn's fans. All that hard work and it will all have been in vain!

[NUG]

About half as many thumbs down on Creep though......

[john]

Creep remains such a powerhouse. Over the past 15 days it has been averaging 32,253 views per day. WCS has averaged 6338 per day during that period. So in that past couple weeks Creep has been gaining almost 26K views a day toward that #1 spot. My guess is that Haley takes the number one spot early on the 15th (PST).

Not only are views per day higher now than in early January, Likes per day has also increased to around 375 per day (from about 300 a month ago).

[popfly38]

Creep remains such a powerhouse. Over the past 15 days it has been averaging 32,253 views per day. WCS has averaged 6338 per day during that period. So in that past couple weeks Creep has been gaining almost 26K views a day toward that #1 spot. My guess is that Haley takes the number one spot early on the 15th (PST).

Not only are views per day higher now than in early January, Likes per day has also increased to around 375 per day (from about 300 a month ago).

However it plays out one thing is certain - Creep is not going to spend much time in the number 2 spot. Based on John's numbers something like 5 hours. I also feel a little for Robyn's fans. Robyn's musical identity is still clearly rooted to her earlier times with PMJ. Someday there will be a challenger to Creep for top PMJ video but I doubt Haliens will be nearly as invested in maintaining that spot since Haley has so many other future projects that will hopefully exceed her PMJ successes.

[Tusk]

I feel for Robyn's fans too, she definitely has some ardent fans who do artwork and buy up the stuff she puts out, if anything else, they should be happy for that from PMJ. On the other hand, as we've heard from Josh and I agree w/, artistic expression is not a competition, purely subjective, I find it a bit annoying that some of her fans view Haley as public enemy no 1. We read it on the PMJ comments and I guess I understand why they see a 'threat'...more 'popular' videos w/ Haley means fewer w/ Robyn.

I've actually been 'challenged' on Twitter when all I did was make a video celebrating the anniversary of Haley's collab w/ PMJ, how many videos and total views she's gained in the past year

https://twitter.com/WoodbridgeBand1/stat...3769048064

He tweeted it, deleted it, and reposted it 4 times. I never mentioned Robyn or anything, I guess he took it as a threat?

I don't think Robyn is "done" w/ PMJ by any stretch, I do like some of her covers, but ultimately, Scott appears to like collaborating w/ Haley as well as the results. I think Robyn's fans should continue supporting her, would not be surprised if she continues to be on tour w/ PMJ. Don't worry about others, just continue using that energy supporting Robyn instead of using it to denounce her 'challengers'

[Miguel]

Robyn's fans think Scott pushed her aside for Haley. The truth though, as I understand it, is Scott and Robyn were in a relationship and he moved to the West Coast after they broke up. Or maybe he intended to make the move all along and she didn't want to come along, precipitating the breakup. In any case, the physical distance now between them has reduced her role. Her fans don't seem to know or appreciate these factors. They just know she's faded from the scene and seemingly been forgotten. If Robyn and Haley's roles were reversed, we'd want her to be remembered too.

[Tusk]

If Robyn and Haley's roles were reversed, we'd want her to be remembered too.

I can see a fraction of Haley's fans 'up in arms' if that were the case, personally, I would not be one of them and I could see Haley having the "que sera sera" attitude and looking forward to her next opportunity/challenge. IMO the most healthy approach about supporting someone

Christina Gatti made the move to the West Coast, is currently Arianna's room mate in California and voila... PMJ Christina videos are being made.... go figure

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Guess the song! We filmed a new @pmjofficial video ft @gattimusic #gattipants

[john]

Early on Robyn was the featured singer for PMJ and gradually Scott began introducing new vocalists like Ashley, Cristina, Annie, Miche, Puddles and so forth. Von, Morgan, and Ariana came along, and eventually Casey and Haley (among others). Robyn's involvement had lessoned, but really fell off a cliff after Scott moved to LA.

While Scott clearly liked Haley from the start, her popularity with PMJ is organic. He posted her videos and people watched, and she became a favorite among the viewers. It wasn't a resut of special treatment by Scott, which wouldn't work anyway. PMJ put up about 50 videos in 2015, and Haley was featured in seven. Only five were solo performances.

I enjoy some of Robyn's performances, and others not so much. Singing was not her choosen vocation when she got involved with PMJ and I think she has a lot of limitations, especially on the stage. While she clearly helped get PMJ some early success she no longer stands out among PMJ performers. I hope she continues to stay involved with the group, but a large portion of its fans are more recent and not so focused on her. So it goes.

[john]

John ‏@JohnKess 14s14 seconds ago
@haleyreinhart @pmjofficial Congrats on Creep passing 15 million views!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3lF2qEA2cw …

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