The 2nd single versus a Fall Tour versus nothing

[NUG]

...This site is all positive energy for the Hales, and that's what she needs.

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^ So true! And Hi Wally (WhadAboutLuv). Welcome to THE Board

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Yes welcome whatsboutluv we all love the Hales here.:

Welcome!!!

[Outcast]

We've all been waiting on word of two things:

- The release of a second single
- Details of a Fall tour with another artist

Both of these are dependent upon Interscope.

Actually unless Haley's on a 360 deal touring is handled by management, so 19 is who you guys should be bugging.

[Asian Dude]

I'm feeling so much love that I could pee!

[Tom22]

There's so much buzz going on about the decline of Haley and her album.

-- I prefer to live in the now, nobody really knows what can happen, and as long as

-- I've been following her she continues to appease us with little surprises.

-- Haley really believes in this being her destiny singing. And I can't help but recall what she said during AI time,

-- when she said she wanted to be a visionary and an inspiration to people around the world, and she certainly has done.

-- We all want her to succeed and be a huge star but

-- I'm a firm believer that she is where she is supposed to be in life. So

-- I choose to enjoy her music one day at a time day by day, this is all were guaranteed. IMO

Yay Midnight ... I'll second all of that, and broke out the sentences to make all of your sentiments a bit easier to read.

I'll add some personal ones of mine(that have a bit different flavor but in no way conflict with my support of Midnights thoughts):

I think Haley is doing great - she's been earning a living , peforming , opening new doors for herself, on top of making some great music.

I really dislike any negative talk about Interescope. They are business people and from my perspective have performed quite honorably and given Haley quite a lot of support.

- talk of "squeezing profits" out of her really riles me a bit. I'm a businessman. Selling things at a profit isn't squeezing profits out of people. Its a matter of giving people a good or a service and charging a price they are happy to pay for it over comporably services.

- investors are supposed to hope for profits on investments.. that's good.. that's progress thats' what keeps this country inovating (ok might be going a bit far there politically, just wanted to add some balance)

-- their "investment" isn't limited to the strict "out of pocket" cash they put up. The men and women in this field are experts and need to earn a decent living or they could be making a large expert at other things they apply themselves to (law , accounting et) with thier competance and work ethics. The organizations have office space and staff to pay on tope of the 'big wigs" that are easier to bash. Getting that contract with Walmart has to do with a business relationship their organziation has built and very often sometimes there are things like "calling in favors" etc ... and many of Haley's appearaces can have come from things like that... giving access to a bigger star if they take a package of smaller stars on shows etc. There is an opportunity cost... they can't throw their weight everywhere.. to the extent the put some behind Haley they are taking a larger risk in their overhead and time etc. Their business is built on having larger success of super stars occasiionally to pay for the efforts that really wouldn't keep the doors open that were efforts trying. If you've ever worked in a business that doesn't get paid by the job but by occasional windfalls and many times were you work hundreds of hours (if not thousands on a real estate development project) and get nothing, those times when you get a huge return per hour need to average in the failures before you start crowing about how much you made on just your sucesses.

- MOST IMPORTANTLY from a fan perspective (yes i don't expect the fan board to care particularly about interscopes profit because it is a fan board) they gave her access to handfuls of the best song writers and musiciians to write songs and record with.

Thats all about the music and even if they dropped her like a rock (which they show no sign of doing ... some agent is getting her high profile appearances like the all star game and song in step-up etc)

--- They hepled her make a great album. .. that can't be "Undone" .. even in the unlikely event that all doors suddenly closed and she went on and lived a productive life like becoing a school principal or something, that album and those songs are there, and Interscope played a big assist in that.

But as for the future.

There is a delicate line between being a Fan of a performers work and becoming fanatic about the details on a Career basis. Wishing well is understandable, but I started thinking that, I really can't go crossing that line and even reading too many people going across that line temps me to start expressing opinions where I really shouldn't be.

- I love her music, I want to hear more of it.

- So following of career can be fun in the same way that following a sports team's off season trades are. I supose thats not entirely un-healthy...yet..

- contrasting that, there are real people involved here and this isn't exactly open busienss like a sports team.... some of the stuff isn't really meant for public speculation... at least im not comfortable with it.

[midnightblues]

There's so much buzz going on about the decline of Haley and her album.

-- I prefer to live in the now, nobody really knows what can happen, and as long as

-- I've been following her she continues to appease us with little surprises.

-- Haley really believes in this being her destiny singing. And I can't help but recall what she said during AI time,

-- when she said she wanted to be a visionary and an inspiration to people around the world, and she certainly has done.

-- We all want her to succeed and be a huge star but

-- I'm a firm believer that she is where she is supposed to be in life. So

-- I choose to enjoy her music one day at a time day by day, this is all were guaranteed. IMO

Yay Midnight ... I'll second all of that, and broke out the sentences to make all of your sentiments a bit easier to read.

I'll add some personal ones of mine(that have a bit different flavor but in no way conflict with my support of Midnights thoughts):

I think Haley is doing great - she's been earning a living , peforming , opening new doors for herself, on top of making some great music.

I really dislike any negative talk about Interescope. They are business people and from my perspective have performed quite honorably and given Haley quite a lot of support.

- talk of "squeezing profits" out of her really riles me a bit. I'm a businessman. Selling things at a profit isn't squeezing profits out of people. Its a matter of giving people a good or a service and charging a price they are happy to pay for it over comporably services.

- investors are supposed to hope for profits on investments.. that's good.. that's progress thats' what keeps this country inovating (ok might be going a bit far there politically, just wanted to add some balance)

-- their "investment" isn't limited to the strict "out of pocket" cash they put up. The men and women in this field are experts and need to earn a decent living or they could be making a large expert at other things they apply themselves to (law , accounting et) with thier competance and work ethics. The organizations have office space and staff to pay on tope of the 'big wigs" that are easier to bash. Getting that contract with Walmart has to do with a business relationship their organziation has built and very often sometimes there are things like "calling in favors" etc ... and many of Haley's appearaces can have come from things like that... giving access to a bigger star if they take a package of smaller stars on shows etc. There is an opportunity cost... they can't throw their weight everywhere.. to the extent the put some behind Haley they are taking a larger risk in their overhead and time etc. Their business is built on having larger success of super stars occasiionally to pay for the efforts that really wouldn't keep the doors open that were efforts trying. If you've ever worked in a business that doesn't get paid by the job but by occasional windfalls and many times were you work hundreds of hours (if not thousands on a real estate development project) and get nothing, those times when you get a huge return per hour need to average in the failures before you start crowing about how much you made on just your sucesses.

- MOST IMPORTANTLY from a fan perspective (yes i don't expect the fan board to care particularly about interscopes profit because it is a fan board) they gave her access to handfuls of the best song writers and musiciians to write songs and record with.

Thats all about the music and even if they dropped her like a rock (which they show no sign of doing ... some agent is getting her high profile appearances like the all star game and song in step-up etc)

--- They hepled her make a great album. .. that can't be "Undone" .. even in the unlikely event that all doors suddenly closed and she went on and lived a productive life like becoing a school principal or something, that album and those songs are there, and Interscope played a big assist in that.

But as for the future.

There is a delicate line between being a Fan of a performers work and becoming fanatic about the details on a Career basis. Wishing well is understandable, but I started thinking that, I really can't go crossing that line and even reading too many people going across that line temps me to start expressing opinions where I really shouldn't be.

- I love her music, I want to hear more of it.

- So following of career can be fun in the same way that following a sports team's off season trades are. I supose thats not entirely un-healthy...yet..

- contrasting that, there are real people involved here and this isn't exactly open busienss like a sports team.... some of the stuff isn't really meant for public speculation... at least im not comfortable with it.

Thank u I forgot bout that

[LovinDaHaley]

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To us all:

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[midnightblues]

HUhhh? I don't get it . splain me

[Asian Dude]

I love Lovinda's sense of humor. That's why I follow you on twitter.

[midnightblues]

Does that thing go BOOM!!!!

[LovinDaHaley]

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^ Ditto Asian Dude.

^^ Bluesman, there is nothing external of my post itself being implied or addressed. I had nobody and no particular post in mind. It was meant to be straight forward and literal, and thus inherently self explanatory. There are no instructions included; but if that really was the complaint department, I'd think taking a number would be a bad idea.

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