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Next album will be blusier
01-21-2013, 02:39 AM, (This post was last modified: 01-21-2013, 02:40 AM by 30CamdenSquare.)
#31
RE: Next album will be blusier
Hi Haleyfans - I know most of you guys from Idol Forums, but this is my first post on Haleyfans. I had a good time reading through the thread & am excited for Haley's 2nd album especially after reading the article in DOPE. This sentence in particular got me excited:

"I want to step into my Blus-ier roots; keep it sultry but have some of that Rock & Roll edge to it."

So here's my take on what she's saying. "Listen Up", apart from being, for the most part, a retro-soul album, was pretty close to the middle of the rock vs. pop spectrum. I don't think that's the reason it didn't sell better than it did though. I've been following a couple of other new artists & have noticed their labels doing things quite a bit differently than what Interscope was doing w/ Haley.

Anyway, I thought Haley would head in 1 of 2 directions w/ her 2nd LP. Either she would move toward the soulful side of pop (Pink, Alicia Keys, Christina, Rhianna) in which case she'd be hoping for airplay on CHR & HAC stations OR she would move toward the bluesy side of modern rock (The Black Keys, Jack White, Allen Stone, Grace Potter & the Nocturnals, Alabama Shakes, Delta Rae, Gary Clark Jr., ZZ Ward) & be looking to get played on Alt. Rock & AAA stations. So, to me, that quote says she's committing herself more to the rock band road to fame as opposed to the pop star road (if that makes any sense).

Having said that, I don't think Haley's new album is going to be straight up blues album. I think it'll be more like melodic rock w/ blues (& maybe some jazz) influences. When there's a lot going on melodically, all of the improvised bluesy fills she does just seem to naturally come out. Also, she's awesome w/ songs that use dynamics to build to a climax. I who have Nothing... Spiderweb. She's so good at that & I hope she has a couple of songs like that on the new album as well.
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01-21-2013, 06:37 AM,
#32
RE: Next album will be blusier
^ [Image: sign0016.gif] 30Camden2...Buzz trying to push the two a little higher [Image: sign0042.gif]...too early in the morning for lifting.

Very nice 1st Post...glad you are bringing that insightful line of reasoning to HF.com [Image: sign0173.gif]
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01-21-2013, 10:18 AM,
#33
RE: Next album will be blusier
(01-21-2013, 02:39 AM)30CamdenSquare Wrote: Hi Haleyfans - I know most of you guys from Idol Forums, but this is my first post on Haleyfans. I had a good time reading through the thread & am excited for Haley's 2nd album especially after reading the article in DOPE. This sentence in particular got me excited:

"I want to step into my Blus-ier roots; keep it sultry but have some of that Rock & Roll edge to it."

So here's my take on what she's saying. "Listen Up", apart from being, for the most part, a retro-soul album, was pretty close to the middle of the rock vs. pop spectrum. I don't think that's the reason it didn't sell better than it did though. I've been following a couple of other new artists & have noticed their labels doing things quite a bit differently than what Interscope was doing w/ Haley.

Anyway, I thought Haley would head in 1 of 2 directions w/ her 2nd LP. Either she would move toward the soulful side of pop (Pink, Alicia Keys, Christina, Rhianna) in which case she'd be hoping for airplay on CHR & HAC stations OR she would move toward the bluesy side of modern rock (The Black Keys, Jack White, Allen Stone, Grace Potter & the Nocturnals, Alabama Shakes, Delta Rae, Gary Clark Jr., ZZ Ward) & be looking to get played on Alt. Rock & AAA stations. So, to me, that quote says she's committing herself more to the rock band road to fame as opposed to the pop star road (if that makes any sense).

Having said that, I don't think Haley's new album is going to be straight up blues album. I think it'll be more like melodic rock w/ blues (& maybe some jazz) influences. When there's a lot going on melodically, all of the improvised bluesy fills she does just seem to naturally come out. Also, she's awesome w/ songs that use dynamics to build to a climax. I who have Nothing... Spiderweb. She's so good at that & I hope she has a couple of songs like that on the new album as well.
Welcome 30CSQ:i agree with you on this post specially the last partWinkBig Grin
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01-21-2013, 10:26 AM,
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RE: Next album will be blusier
(01-21-2013, 02:39 AM)30CamdenSquare Wrote: I thought Haley would head in 1 of 2 directions w/ her 2nd LP. Either she would move toward the soulful side of pop...OR she would move toward the bluesy side of modern rock...So, to me, that quote says she's committing herself more to the rock band road to fame as opposed to the pop star road...

She chose wisely, in my opinion, because that's what I'd prefer to hear.

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01-21-2013, 11:10 AM,
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RE: Next album will be blusier
Welcome 30CamdenSquare to the site. I always enjoy reading your posts. I also hope Haley is going in the direction you speculate as the bluesy side of rock mixed with a taste of Haley-style jazz would be my preference as well. I just hope we don't have to wait too long for the 2nd album. The clips from her performance in Boston with Allen Stone show she is sounding better then ever but when will we see her perform again? Can't wait to hear more information on whats next.
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01-21-2013, 01:16 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-21-2013, 01:20 PM by Tusk.)
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RE: Next album will be blusier
Welcome to our humble abode :cool:

Speaking as someone who was looking forward to a post Idol Rock Haley (my ABBA fanhood aside :D ) , I am glad for the direction she has taken me on, shown me stuff I discovered I really like.

More than likely I will love the direction she takes us on her second album, that being said, Haley is still young and I don't think she should completely discount her pop sensibilities.

Pop music is the soundtrack for the young and the group that is targeted and spends the money. Besides that, as much as I enjoy pics of Haley with her older fans, it's nice to see her in pics with her younger fans like the ones from last night's Allen Stone show. Haley wants to be a role model, and I couldn't think of better one for these young girls to look up to...plus you should see her interact with very young kids...she adores them :heart:

Finally, I submit this. When asked why ABBA refuses to reunite even when offered 1 billion dollars to do so, Bjorn Ulvaeus said that pop music is for the young and as a musician, you have a very short window to be able to connect with that audience, see and feel the same thing they do.
So as a young 22 year old, Haley already has the 'old soul' , she should not completely disregard the pop side of things... incorperate it as seemlessly as she did the different elements that are in LU
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01-21-2013, 01:23 PM,
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RE: Next album will be blusier
Bjorn probably thought your billion dollar check would bounce.
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01-21-2013, 01:33 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-21-2013, 01:40 PM by Tusk.)
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RE: Next album will be blusier
(01-21-2013, 01:23 PM)Miguel Wrote: Bjorn probably thought your billion dollar check would bounce.
Do you think Haley might take it? Tongue

LOL I didn't make that up..they are famously known for being one of the few 'Super Groups' who could not be lured back to perform in their 50's and 60's

(the only thing in dispute is the currency, maybe Euros instead of Dollars)... It was an international consortium of individuals that offered it as I recall. (and offered more than once)

I'm by no means implying Haley should do a pop album. I am saying that she should not discount incorporating pop elements completely at this stage of her career while she is still young.
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01-21-2013, 01:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-21-2013, 01:48 PM by Miguel.)
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RE: Next album will be blusier
Bjorn is the main backer of an ABBA museum set to open in May:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/dec...sic-museum
Quote:Ulvaeus has been keen to downplay the glamour and emphasise the more melancholy side to the band, the darker aspects of the lyrics, the frequent use of plaintive minor keys...
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01-21-2013, 01:59 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-21-2013, 02:02 PM by Tusk.)
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RE: Next album will be blusier
(01-21-2013, 01:45 PM)Miguel Wrote: Bjorn is the main backer of an ABBA museum set to open in May:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/dec...sic-museum
Quote:Ulvaeus has been keen to downplay the glamour and emphasise the more melancholy side to the band, the darker aspects of the lyrics, the frequent use of plaintive minor keys...

Of the four, Bjorn has always been chagrined that ABBA has often been dismissed as a 'disco'group by the 'establishment' in America, so it was quite an 'in your face' moment for him, I bet, when he was there to accept induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (In Europe, on the other hand, they have received countless music and writing awards)...but it was the indifference from the American music establishment that galled him IMO (selling over 365 million albums should mean something... Tongue )
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