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Elise Testone
03-17-2013, 03:27 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-17-2013, 03:43 PM by Tusk.)
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Elise Testone
(03-17-2013, 02:39 PM)rmd1064 Wrote: I was thinking about that when I read this about sixth place finisher Elise Testone from Idol Season 11, who many compared to Haley. As far as I can tell, she is unsigned to a record label but working on a new CD, but here is what she is doing now per her hometown Charleston City Paper:

Quote:“…. she’s put together a band of exceptionally talented, committed musicians and together they’re creating the kind of sound that she dreamed about. She’s got two back-up singers, both of whom she sang with while in college at Coastal Carolina University; a cellist; two saxophonists, one of whom also plays the trumpet and the other the flute; and bass, drums, guitar, and piano. Currently, she’s working with a manager to book a summer tour.”

(03-17-2013, 02:39 PM)rmd1064 Wrote: Wow---a nine piece band. What could Haley do with something like that……? Well, here is hoping that we all read a similar story about Haley and a new band soon……… Hoping, hoping, hoping.

I liked Elise through her season, and her songs are well written/ performed and I also like her unique tone...but I noticed, it's ridiculous, I know, but since Haley, I have this really high expectation for an artist to reach. It can't just be well sung and written, but it also has to hit me in the right spot, I almost expect a visceral connection with the song/performance, that I get from Haley, that I want from other singers.

I really notice it in this season's AI. I know that Candice, Kree and Angela are good.... I just can't connect with them Tongue

I am impressed with what Elise has put out, post Idol, it's just I keep looking for that 'feeling' Tongue

Elise put out a few quality vids of original (and some covers) songs, and I agree, it would be great if Haley could cobble together some artists to do something similar of equal quality







^^^ Is this like the 'more blusier' direction Haley is talking about? I'd be Cool with that Big Grin
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03-17-2013, 05:25 PM,
#2
RE: Next album will be blusier
(03-17-2013, 03:27 PM)Tusk Wrote:
(03-17-2013, 02:39 PM)rmd1064 Wrote: I was thinking about that when I read this about sixth place finisher Elise Testone from Idol Season 11, who many compared to Haley. As far as I can tell, she is unsigned to a record label but working on a new CD, but here is what she is doing now per her hometown Charleston City Paper:

Quote:“…. she’s put together a band of exceptionally talented, committed musicians and together they’re creating the kind of sound that she dreamed about. She’s got two back-up singers, both of whom she sang with while in college at Coastal Carolina University; a cellist; two saxophonists, one of whom also plays the trumpet and the other the flute; and bass, drums, guitar, and piano. Currently, she’s working with a manager to book a summer tour.”

(03-17-2013, 02:39 PM)rmd1064 Wrote: Wow---a nine piece band. What could Haley do with something like that……? Well, here is hoping that we all read a similar story about Haley and a new band soon……… Hoping, hoping, hoping.

I liked Elise through her season, and her songs are well written/ performed and I also like her unique tone...but I noticed, it's ridiculous, I know, but since Haley, I have this really high expectation for an artist to reach. It can't just be well sung and written, but it also has to hit me in the right spot, I almost expect a visceral connection with the song/performance, that I get from Haley, that I want from other singers.

I really notice it in this season's AI. I know that Candice, Kree and Angela are good.... I just can't connect with them Tongue

I am impressed with what Elise has put out, post Idol, it's just I keep looking for that 'feeling' Tongue

Elise put out a few quality vids of original (and some covers) songs, and I agree, it would be great if Haley could cobble together some artists to do something similar of equal quality







^^^ Is this like the 'more blusier' direction Haley is talking about? I'd be Cool with that Big Grin
In this show she did a very strong cover of Led Zeppelin Whole Lotta Love with a good band's job
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03-17-2013, 06:04 PM,
#3
RE: Elise Testone
Elise is one of those singers that I enjoy listening to but I do not like to watch when she performs. She is certainly a talented young lady but when I watch a visual performance there is an immediate disconnect. Over the years I have found this to be the case with a number of performers so don't think I am picking on Elise... Shy

And yes, lovinghaleyr, she did a kick a$$ cover of Whole Lotta Love!!
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03-17-2013, 07:51 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-17-2013, 07:53 PM by mercfan3.)
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RE: Elise Testone
Elise is another artist with fantastic (and unique) runs. I agree though Tusk, I never really connected with her on Idol.

I saw her on youtube, expected her to be one of my favorites possibly ever. LOVED her voice. And I just wasn't her biggest fan. (She ran about fifth, behind Dre, Jessica, Hollie..okay..maybe tied with Skylar). I'm sure part of it was the comparison's to Haley...and she's just not anywhere close...but I did like her. (In fact, in terms of singers I liked on idol last season, it was essentially everyone but Heejun, Phillip, and Colton...and I've warmed up a lot on Phillip. And I like Heejun and Colton's personalities.)

I'd love to see Haley have a band like that. But I just think Interscope really missed the boat on her. They had, on their hands, the sex kitten version of Adele..who is fully capable of changing up her style when the music industry calls for it (when Rock comes back in style, she can do that..she could do a little bit of jazz infusion..funk..etc...) similar to Kelly Clarkson. I just don't get why they didn't promote her.
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03-17-2013, 10:08 PM,
#5
RE: Elise Testone
I liked Elise on Idol but I think Amanda Brown from The Voice is a better version of her.
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03-17-2013, 11:44 PM,
#6
RE: Elise Testone
I agree with so much of what each of you wrote.

The bottom line for me isn't what she's doing with her voice, or how she sings each note and works the chords in a way that says exactly what she wants to say with music.

To me Elises voice, while certainly a tone of her own and on pitch and strong when she wants it to be strong isn't that next step of crazy good that would have you turning your head to listen.. like say Crystal Bowersox could probably do for me no matter what song she sings. Haley is somewhere in-between... Haley could sing a Cole porter song in the most straightforward manner possible and still have me whipping my head around without any interpretation at all(and Haley's head voice is unparrelled in my mind) but most of Haley's voice stops at super, not extraordinary and haley takes it up to super extraordinary with her interpretation. (I'd say, Elise has the same strong and controlled voice as Haley, without any incredible(like legendary?) part like Haley's head voice is, but neither could do an exact copy of Whitney Houston and not come up short unless they stylized it.)

The issue for me... and why Haley is an artist I see head and shoulders above the rest.. is that Haley has something to say.

All people probably have a song in their heart of who they are and what they see. The problem is.. we' don't always want to hear what all people "have to say" when it comes to philosophy on things (errm like me ? lol) .

Did any of you read and remember the book "Little Big Man" that talked about a similar subject in Native American sense of things?

I read a reflection from a great musician (I forget who) in the 12 or 18 hour history of Jazz documentary Quentin Marseilles made 10 years ago. The topic was Larry Parker and the rise of bop... and how when you broke all the rules and let the musicians free of the limitations of the chord progression... they let the improvisational Jazz artists loose to say what they had to say. The problem was , he went on, has that other than Charlie, Dizzy, Miles and a small handful of others… they just didn’t have anything special to say .

So, its not that Elise isn’t a good person , or that she isn’t a smart person, or that she isn’t a reflective person, or a forward looking person …… she’s just another cocktail of all of those and does so in a different way…. Elises sort of restrained hope isn’t Haley’s romantic certainty that there is more things good that we see at hand… .. Ok.. I’ll stop with my philosophizing there.. Because if I could put it in words accurately I’d be a famous poet or psychologist or both.
Its just as you have all said in the short and relevant take away department.. for whatever reason you’re not fascinated with her.

The reason I think, is that the personality of the musician has to be fascinating to you… even if you don’t agree with them up and down the scale, they’re echoing somethings you've thought of and giving you a flavor that sometimes affirms you and sometimes affirms and leads you to where you've got a view of more to add on what you feel on your own. Ok.. that’s the poetry again .. HARD STOP .
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03-18-2013, 11:12 AM,
#7
RE: Elise Testone
I think you under appreciate Haley a little bit.

Whitney isn't a good comparison, but if you listen to her version of "All I want for Christmas Is You." It's striking how similar she sounds to Mariah Carey. And Mariah was actually a technically better singer than Whitney.

Haley's vocals stand alone. She doesn't need to stylize to wow me. Personally, I think she's the best vocalist the show has seen. She doesn't have the biggest range (although certainly far above average) but everything else she can do with her voice..and her control. Is incredible. JLo actually had the best line about Haley "you can take your voice anywhere you want to go."

I remember Steven Tyler saying something to the effect of "Those other guys (Jennifer and Randy) aren't true singers like Reinhart and I."

I always love Haley's vocal choices. They show a musicality that is just so rare. But vocally, she's technically an incredible singer as well. IMO, significantly better than Elise.
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03-18-2013, 12:19 PM,
#8
RE: Elise Testone
(03-18-2013, 11:12 AM)mercfan3 Wrote: I think you under appreciate Haley a little bit.

Whitney isn't a good comparison, but if you listen to her version of "All I want for Christmas Is You." It's striking how similar she sounds to Mariah Carey. And Mariah was actually a technically better singer than Whitney.

Haley's vocals stand alone. She doesn't need to stylize to wow me. Personally, I think she's the best vocalist the show has seen. She doesn't have the biggest range (although certainly far above average) but everything else she can do with her voice..and her control. Is incredible. JLo actually had the best line about Haley "you can take your voice anywhere you want to go."

I remember Steven Tyler saying something to the effect of "Those other guys (Jennifer and Randy) aren't true singers like Reinhart and I."

I always love Haley's vocal choices. They show a musicality that is just so rare. But vocally, she's technically an incredible singer as well. IMO, significantly better than Elise.

Hey merc..

I was pretty specific.

If I said that Dan Marino had a better arm than Joe Montana or John Elway you'd know what I meant

I think Montana and Elway were far better quarterbacks because "touch" and "clutch" are more important than throwing form.

I'm big into taking things apart.

I'm not too smart compared to MIT guys... but lol, back at college admisons time I 'd roast the other 99% of the population.

I agree with singing skill and was pretty clear on that.

I don't know the word to use to describe that pure belting high note. I agree she has incredible form.

Whitney was an example because... well that's what I meant.

I neve said anything about "vocalist" I said sheer voice singing dead straight with no tonal variantion and no acrobatics.

I dont' think Whitney or Mariah could do "blue" for example so I'm being very specific about something different from control.

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03-18-2013, 05:36 PM,
#9
RE: Elise Testone
Ah, all right..I misunderstood you. Sort of. I mean, what makes Whitney great? Tone? Her range? Her ability to belt? That's all technical aspects (other than tone...and honestly, I prefer Haley's there..) If we're taking things apart. I think you are saying that Whitney's tone wows you..but I'm not sure.
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03-18-2013, 07:21 PM,
#10
RE: Elise Testone
(03-17-2013, 11:44 PM)Tom22 Wrote: The bottom line for me isn't what she's doing with her voice, or how she sings each note and works the chords in a way that says exactly what she wants to say with music.

Tom22, that's an absurd statement! Elise is an extraordinarily good musician, who knows exactly what she wants to do and is doing it. She's far too good a musician not to be able to do otherwise.

That it's not what you think she should be doing is a different story. And that's probably why so many of you are saying that she doesn't connect with you. Her musical choices seem fairly cerebral to me (although that may not be close to how it is for her), and they don't go where the listener anticipates them.

I suspect that's part of why Tusk, Cherelann, Tom, and even I, "don't connect." (For my part, I also struggle with many of her song choices.)
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