Haley PAVE Concert Sept 29, 2018

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I made some comments in the technical tread on the site update (where I guess they fit as badly as under the PAVE heading):

An important point is raised by Tusk: that the discussions are not happening anymore. I also dropped out at some point. I do come back a lot to read, but find I rely more on twitter feeds. But it is not the same. This requires some careful thinking. The function of HF as an archive of the beginnings will remain important for the future historians, but for the us and now, I agree with Tusk that the community is what made it. For me, one problem has been that there are only so many times that one can state how fantastic things are, how wonderful the music, how great the talent. Or speculate on what may be next, or how Haley works, or what she might do. It starts becoming repetitive. Much has been said many times. While of course new things come up. So what, besides the flow of information keeping us all updated - which here indeed totally is a hard labor of love by Tusk, John and Miguel + a few others, which is greatly admire - what else could be done to create new discussion that is fun to join? I am not sure I know the answer but it is worth thinking about. Because the next step would be silence. I, for one, would be pretty cut off from keeping up to date with what is developing. But I seriously understand that for those still posting it is more of a task by now and not that much fun anymore, despite all the dedication. And half of the fun is feedback and thoughts and community around the information. Or did people wander off to be engaged with new discoveries? The world of music is endless, thankfully. So that is going to happen, too, which does not mean of course leaving interest in Haley behind, as she is unique. Or is it just that a dedicated niche following necessarily changes character when the act breaks more into sucess? For me, HF was always characterized by two things, an open and friendly community of great people - wonderful meetings online - and a joint deep love of music from different perspectives. HF never was superficial fan tabloid talk but always paired with passion for music in all its forms.

As an aside, what are the archive mode options? That could be looked into, if the site were to freeze at some point, how to keep it up to date as an archive. Not that we're there yet, if ever.

I agree with you, Himm, that a go-to place for Haliens with the different modes of quick news, substanital news, discussion, opinions, archive would be great even if it is a distributed thing. Probably hard to pull off, not just technically. Maybe the forum format is too leaden in today's times, I am seeing other forums also struggle more than they used to. We got too customized to the twitter and facebook ways. But we should not give up on words, and the meaning of words.