The 2nd single versus a Fall Tour versus nothing

[Asian Dude]

I mean, shouldn't you worry more about the people in Syria and a cure for dyslexia?

[buzzenator]

^ or maybe just sentence structure and spelling could be the topic at hand. Reach out and touch somebody's hand...then the world would be a better place...

[Miguel]

I mean, shouldn't you worry more about the people in Syria and a cure for dyslexia?

Not on HaleyFans.com. And people suffer from worse things than dyslexia.

[Tom22]

Like Tom, I'm a big fan of business/commerce. I introduce topics about the label's decision making and possible courses of action not to be negative but because they interest me. I'm learning as I go and the music industry is too as technology has changed everything.

I continue to believe Haley will ultimately be very successful and have no doubt she will make a good living as a performer for as long as she wishes.

I've got to say I'm really curious to learn more about how the industry works too. I'm sort of curious about everything in the world from String theory, to genetic research , to fashion trends I learn about on project runway.

Following a budding artists career -is- an excellent way to learn more about the business.

I'm not against -open pondering- of the "why's" and coming up with hypothetical possibilities and wondering why they didn't choose this or that, or speculating on the possibilties that something can happen.

It is just a bit of a dangerous slope sometimes that makes it easy to go from "I wonder why" to "they really blew it" .

I can take some heat myself in one area perhaps. I looked at what I thought were suggestions of possible areas of stage pressence improvments and attempts to understand comments of a third party and I can see why they might have come off as negative nit-picking to some people despite my efforts to qualify my statements.

I can easily see myself doign my same to others on different subjects by accident, or taking peoples words wrongly etc..

I suppose that if we made the effort to use words like "speculation" in titles and tried extra hard to wonder about "why" they didn't do something rather than criticize it could feel more positive while still being a learning experience about the business.

It will be tricky but I think there is always room to come closer to the mark with some effort even if perfection is unattainable.

Maybe trying to keep some threads in a "business of promotion" sub-forum or something might make an incremental step that way too.

A real effort to avoid the "worried for" type of title will help. "Targets to reach", or something might be a better header for speculating what level of sales would be an appropiate goal etc.

The info you researched on "Different artists use of Twitter" was pretty intersting Miguel and tryng to approach things in that manner could be a good way for us all to strive for when we feel the need to question why something that makes sense to us isn't being done.

[Babbs234]

[quote='Miguel' pid='13673' dateline='1345510836']
Like Tom, I'm a big fan of business/commerce. I introduce topics about the label's decision making and possible courses of action not to be negative but because they interest me. I'm learning as I go and the music industry is too as technology has changed everything.

I continue to believe Haley will ultimately be very successful and have no doubt she will make a good living as a performer for as long as she wishes.
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I've got to say I'm really curious to learn more about how the industry works too. I'm sort of curious about everything in the world from String theory, to genetic research , to fashion trends I learn about on project runway.

Following a budding artists career -is- an excellent way to learn more about the business.

Tom, your an interesting guy... following fashion trends on project runway hehe ( I mean that in a good way) I love doing that too. and learning about music business by following a budding artist. It's fun!

I think its made us all learn to be very patient. its definitely an eye opener. From how the singles are timed to be released, to how music companies promote their artists, to how they pay them. I do think there is still a lot of interest in Haley. Just look at all the paparazzi around her at events. It was really cool at lollapalooza to see all these photographers with their long lenses suddenly appear to take pictures at the beginning of her set!

[john]

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Apparently some sort of California-speak. Buzz might know.

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WE shouldnt be sad Haley has given us a good site to talk bout hales she gave usLU with all the pics. BICO she gave us the chery fest sang the NA and GBA she just did LOlla.and the summer tour ECT ECT. One more time, she is a baby artist new and up comming. all the good tunes with Harry and Hales. Cmon man she didn't disappoint us.she is not God. She worcked her Ass of for her and her fans . There is so much more we should be bummed , but Happy that she got to 3rd place and got signed OH hell Yes

Absolutely. I couldn't have said it better myself. Haley is all over the place recently. She seems to get nice gigs. She has a lot of fans and well-wishers in the media. The camera loves her (and she loves it). Her album is full of great tracks. Bean by bean Haley carries on. At some point the public will get grabbed and Haley will be off to the races.

[LovinDaHaley]

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^ Undoubtedly! Haley Reinhart was born for this.

She's gaining fans practically by the second.

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[whadaboutluv]

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^ Undoubtedly! Haley Reinhart was born for this.

She's gaining fans practically by the second.

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Thanks for the welcomes. I've had a busy week so am now just catching up, so sorry for beating an an almost dead horse , but I'm not worried about Listen Up at all. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't Call Me Maybe out for many months before it finally caught on? Granted, it's a single, but a hot single drives album sales. I think the disappointment might be in how Free did, which mainly was due to lack of radio play. Undone or Oh My could grab an audience, and hopefully better air play. And I think it's coming soon. Interscope, IMO, has treated Haley with utmost respect for her artistry, and I think they'll be patient with her. And LU is just too good to flounder.
Signed, Wally