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New Hidden Haley Songs on Soundcloud
08-06-2015, 06:49 PM,
#11
RE: New Hidden Haley Songs on Soundcloud
Well, if it hadn't of been leaked I wouldn't have it on my itunes. (As well as Christina's, because I wanted to make sure she got paid..plus Christina's adorable.) Tongue

I don't think a song being leaked will stop a song from bought. There are quite a few different versions of popular songs floating around from their original writer. (Adam's "Whataya Want From Me" was written by Pink..and Britney's "Perfume" was written by Sia..both available by Pink and Sia online.)

Unfortunately, things get leaked and things get spread around with the technology we have. As much as it can be bad for Haley..there's also a possibility that it goes viral, and Haley gets a viral single.

I hope though, in the future people know...if Haley has written a song and it's been published..and someone else is singing it, she's getting paid.
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08-06-2015, 06:49 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-06-2015, 06:56 PM by Tusk.)
#12
RE: New Hidden Haley Songs on Soundcloud
(08-06-2015, 06:48 PM)dswim2 Wrote: Haley wanted this album to be really bluesy, so I just think she isn't interested in using them right now. Of course she could use them down the road, but these songs were probably written for the timbaland songwriting camp--based off the hashtag timbaland--not for Haley herself.

Isn't that Haley and Ole's choice to make?

Haley is signed to a publishing company who's prime directive is to place songs to make money after all, whether Haley sings them or not, they are still valuable to Ole

(08-06-2015, 06:49 PM)mercfan3 Wrote: I hope though, in the future people know...if Haley has written a song and it's been published..and someone else is singing it, she's getting paid.
Exactly Exclamation
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08-06-2015, 06:59 PM,
#13
RE: New Hidden Haley Songs on Soundcloud
Yes, but putting them out on soundcloud might get an artist interested in that song.
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08-06-2015, 07:02 PM,
#14
RE: New Hidden Haley Songs on Soundcloud
I know it's a complex situation as far as rights, value, ownership, sales, use etc. Bottom line, we want Haley to succeed. By no way am I meaning to be judgmental or 'holier than thou', I'm just pointing out that the songs are Intellectual property, so therefore has value that Ole can turn into income for Haley.

The way technology is today, it get's harder and harder for people in that industry to maximize the potential of the songs they write. There are many arguments from many sides of the issue. I'm just presenting one side, as I see it.... Tongue
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08-06-2015, 07:03 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-06-2015, 07:09 PM by dswim2.)
#15
RE: New Hidden Haley Songs on Soundcloud
It's your opinion. Like Haley said, "you're entitled to it".

(08-06-2015, 07:02 PM)Tusk Wrote: I know it's a complex situation as far as rights, value, ownership, sales, use etc. Bottom line, we want Haley to succeed. By no way am I meaning to be judgmental or 'holier than thou',
Or rather in this case a perspective haha!

I guess what I really meant is I personally don't see it as big as get yourself or something like that being leaked, because I don't see Haley doing it. I wonder how the rules apply for putting songs on soundcloud and stuff. Does a certain amount of time have to pass?
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08-06-2015, 07:27 PM,
#16
RE: New Hidden Haley Songs on Soundcloud
(08-06-2015, 07:03 PM)dswim2 Wrote: I guess what I really meant is I personally don't see it as big as get yourself or something like that being leaked, because I don't see Haley doing it.


I thought of that too - I loved Haley in Get Yourself Together and it fit her saucy attitude well. This new one...not so much.

I would never give another artist grief for singing one of Haleys songs, but there are plenty of people who did for sure. I was praying they wouldn't ruin it for her when Christina released the song.
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08-06-2015, 08:35 PM,
#17
RE: New Hidden Haley Songs on Soundcloud
Is this scenario even possible?

1. Haley/Ole sells a song with a pop arrangement to a very popular artist.
2. The song becomes a big hit.
3. Scott decides to do a PMJ/jazz arrangement of this song.
4. Assuming Haley is still with Scott at this time, Scott chooses Haley to do his jazz version of the song. Haley sings it better than the original.
5. It becomes a PMJ mega-hit, similar to Creep.

This seems too weird to consider. I doubt if Haley would even do this, but is it legal, etc.?
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08-06-2015, 08:40 PM,
#18
RE: New Hidden Haley Songs on Soundcloud
Yea, it's difficult to figure out, but it can work both ways.

Usher recently had a demo leak of a song he was never planning to release (and wasn't planning to be on) but it picked up steam and the label released it, and it ended up being his first Billboard hot 100 top 10 since his last album (I think 3 years ago?)
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08-06-2015, 08:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-06-2015, 08:52 PM by john.)
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RE: New Hidden Haley Songs on Soundcloud
(08-06-2015, 08:35 PM)ButterandBloom Wrote: Is this scenario even possible?

1. Haley/Ole sells a song with a pop arrangement to a very popular artist.
2. The song becomes a big hit.
3. Scott decides to do a PMJ/jazz arrangement of this song.
4. Assuming Haley is still with Scott at this time, Scott chooses Haley to do his jazz version of the song. Haley sings it better than the original.
5. It becomes a PMJ mega-hit, similar to Creep.

This seems too weird to consider. I doubt if Haley would even do this, but is it legal, etc.?

Why not? I suppose if the writers signed away their rights to the song there could be issues. Writers frequently perform and record their own song after it has been popularized by another performer.

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It does seem these songs get leaked by producers/co-writers who are not so careful. Some may not think about it much because they put up stuff on their soundcloud or website all the time that is pretty much ignored. But that changes when a search for "Haley Reinhart" reveals something of hers now on their site. I suspect some of these cowriters don't mind or may intentional seek to get a little publicity from their association with Haley.
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11-07-2015, 02:22 AM, (This post was last modified: 11-07-2015, 02:30 AM by Miguel.)
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"Confident" and "Queen of Thieves" produced by Maurice "Velly" Conaway
Sept 2014:
Quote:ole-bluestone, a music publishing co-venture between ole and iconic super producer Timbaland, has completed a worldwide co-publishing deal with Maurice "Velly" Conaway, a hip-hop and R&B producer, songwriter, and musician from Baltimore, MD, who has worked with R&B and hip-hop artists Twista, Busta Rhymes, and Mya along with Grammy Award winner Angelique Kidjo.

http://www.majorlyindie.com/newsRelease....easeID=397

"Confident:"

Quote:Lewis Turpin ‏@Guitarzan24 1h

Listen to Confident (Haley Reinhart Produced by Maurice "Velly" Conaway) by Velly Nation #np on #SoundCloud

http://soundcloud.com/velly-music-group/...ly-conaway

"Queen of Thieves:"

https://soundcloud.com/velly-music-group...ly-conaway

^ Posted to SoundCloud 7-8-15
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