(08-24-2012, 09:03 PM)Miguel Wrote: (08-24-2012, 07:16 PM)Tom22 Wrote: I've got every confidence he's familiar with the music of charlie parker and tychovsky and has apreiciated them and comes back to metal not from vapidness but from connection.
I recall James mentioning that he listened to and studied Hardcore Superstar from Sweden, but I don't recall any talk of Tchaikovsky.
Sorry for the spelling. Just a gut feeling I had at times , maybe in group numbers.... I think I pulled out Tchaikovsky because of how the British Ska band Madness played his music (and I think I posted their swan lake in another thread, not sure) in a rockabelli/ska way. Its just a matter of phrasing that gave me the gut impression. Same with the charlie parker comment I made. Once some of that stuff is in a musicians mind I've got to think it has subtle influences even within completely different genres. Almost every note a singer hits has a grace note used to approach it. Part of why any midi kind of computer generated music seems so plain and tasteless.
I think his "while my guitar gently weeps" particularly woke me up ... his riffs aren't just warmed over rocker stylizations, particularly in the rhythym he holds notes for, and what tones he runs through betwen landing syllables. I here a certain jazz influence there and not a typical blues phrasing either. Maybe I should have said Miles Davis not Parker of course they played together on some seminal stuff. But I dont' exactly mean any , but just a contrast with the blues and rock sound
Here is the long studio version. When I listen, I'm hearing the band playing all of these really cliche rock riffs (not saying they had the freedom to do what they wanted... it wasn't about them) but what durbin is doing really has some meditated musicallity to it.
Like i said, what i'm hearing differently is in the rhytym within his runs and the grace notes he chooses... I don't want to over think it.. I just hear it and there is a lot there for me.
Yet... I don't exactly know what my take-away is supposed to be.. but sometimes thats a problem I have with bop too. actually my provlem with that song isn't james but the way the lead guitar accompanies him.. in style.(and i'm not saying durbin is playin bop jazz.. just I hear a tinge that direc)
not much rhyme or reason to these particular clips but.
and Jimmy Hendrix on guitar in europe
listen to hendrix about 10:30 minutes in ... maybe I'm wrong. midnight is more expert at it, but what hendrix is doing there is a lot more bop than stadard r&b and even where rock went after hendrix.
I'm not saying James durbin is a genius yet or anything but just that he's listened to some music.
For what its worth I dig the hendrix stuff.. maybe it's got mor R&B or its just he's got someting wordless to say the way he juxtaposes things that means something to me. I can't say the same about parker though I intellectually like parkers contructs.
I wish James went more the way that While my guitar gently weeps goes.. but with a band with more edge to it. it could really be some interesting music.
James Durbin seems to go to more cliche sounds on recent recording that i've heard (not that i've heard them all.. maybe i should look?)when I've heard he has more in him.
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