Haley is no Kenny-Poo ; )

There is some good and bad to that... Kenny seems like a decent enough guy with a little bit of wit, enjoys the world around him and comfortable with himself warts and all.....
.... but , he doesn't seem to have any huge talent that would qualify himself as a "public persona" (he might be a good businessman.. but he's not a singer or actor or professional comedian). Kenny likes to self promote ... Lives to self -promote with nary little to promote (again, he's having fun so. I'm 100% ok with people having fun...no one needs to listen if they don't want to.

Haley... is full of talent... incredibly so, has a fan base in at least thousands that are interested (and hundreds of thousands in a sometimes-interested category)... but Haley does not seem to love to self promote ...She does Work at it ... but it is Work with the exception of charity events which she seems to genuinely eager to do (and get some free promotion on the nightly news) mostly because she wants to help the charity!
.... she lives for music... she doesn't live to be the center of attention with a "me-me-me-look-at-me" .. at least that is my observation over the last 2 years.

I might say she loves to help people, loves to entertain and motivate..but I don't feel like she has this hunger that needs to be fed by the roar of applause ...she does it for others...but less of a greed / need to be fed.

Basically, I've come to believe that she is too well adjusted, polite, happy, generous to be a pop star unless a song hits via a movie or tv then she gets pulled into the limelight through the popularity of a song that catches an ear. And even then, she'd need another hit another year to stay in the public eye (yet what is so good about the public eye ? Why? thats just vanity) She's just not dark and strange enough to capture attention of radio hosts, or vain enough (katy perry? not that she's a bad person, but there is a hunger for cameras on her I believe ) to do things to get on camera not as a Job...but as a personal obsession. (or.. release porn tapes like kim kardashian to propel zero talent into a phenomena ... still hope for you Kenny! -- where are your sex tapes? ; ) )

Sure, we can imagine polite self promotions in between....but, I really think that it has to be a large part an obsession....

Haley has an obsession to write music.... I'm big on people following their bliss...not getting trapped into what "they think they should do" .

So many of the pictures of her I've seen over the last year make me think I'm seeing a free-spirit being crushed into tasks that really aren't self-fufilling for her.

The exceptions for me are those photo's we've seen of her working in the studios....a confident engrossed, able tiger of a girl...not someone's blushing grand-daughter which is a part of her real self ...but not the part that's going to create the art she can.

(04-07-2014, 10:09 AM)Tom22 Wrote: Haley is no Kenny-Poo ; )

You thought I was Kenny... so.....

(04-07-2014, 10:10 AM)Tusk Wrote:

(04-07-2014, 10:09 AM)Tom22 Wrote: Haley is no Kenny-Poo ; )

You thought I was Kenny... so.....

only because Kenny kept posting your videos without saying they were someone elses !

Case in point ! ... he got credit for what he didn't deserve !

(... ... almost certainly not intentional but just a natural way of phrasing things )

You said he likes to self promote.... Why would he then post ast "Tusk" too? The videos from "HaleysTusk" instead of "KennyPoo" didn't drop a clue?

Do a search for Haley's videos, see if any come up "KennyPoo"...

You've read my posts since TVLine... and none of the content ever gave a clue either?

(04-07-2014, 09:19 AM)Tusk Wrote: Why does no one get this is not about some grand gesture?....it's about thanking for going above and beyond..., simple gratitude easily done by spending a couple minutes...

I deleted my posts because it's pointless... I If that makes me a bad fan, then I guess I've wasted my time..

I don’t think Himm2 meant you were rambling, he was talking about Haley not going on and on (rambling) over social media. She never really has done much with social media, not saying she shouldn't but she just doesn't. You are a great fan and please keep up the good work and don’t get discourage, it has been such a fun adventure and more is to come very soon.

We all are fans here and have our individual opinions. We appreciate everyone’s perspective and don’t necessarily agree with everyone all the time. There is a really good group of fans on this site and I enjoy reading all the posts. The main thing is that she made it to the goal with all of her fan support and I am sure that soon we will all be happy with the outcome.

I get discouraged when we can't even be honest with ourselves. I support Haley, but not blindly. She is not perfect, no one is. She is still very young and has much to learn still, so it should be OK to admit when something could have been handled better.

If you're asking for a blind follower, well sorry folks, that's not who I am. I love Haley for her talent, love of life, potential and how she's inspired me to be creative again, not because I believe she is perfect and can do no wrong....

I'd like to believe that we can help her, but it's no help to ignore

Anyway, I'm done with this... I hope Haley really takes this tweet from Miguel to heart, it's important to her future career

Quote:Miguel @HaleyFansDotCom
@HaleyReinhart Congrats on reaching $30K. Please approach this project with dedicated professionalism as many have put their faith in you.

(04-07-2014, 10:29 AM)Tusk Wrote: You said he likes to self promote.... The videos from "HaleysTusk" instead of "KennyPoo" didn't drop a clue?

Do a search for Haley's videos, see if any come up "KennyPoo"...

You've read my posts since TVLine... and none of the content ever gave a clue either?

Tusk... please. I admitted it was a mistake right then.. the thing was up for 6 hours.. the note on it at youtube said I'd take it down within a day or two...I must have had some misgivings and knew when I woke up the next day i probably shouldn't have posted it.

We've all got foibles. I'll say things that I shouldn't sometimes but I'm also quick to admit that I made a mistake.

We're using aliases and its really hard to keep people's names and posts together for me..even without aliases... it wasn't like there was a "you" that I thought was like "kenny poo"... If I had an idea of your personality I never would have made the mistake !

I really can't keep peoples personalities behind aliases straight. I look not at the names but the ideas.

I like Ideas.. not because they are true or not but because they are thought provoking.

I like to hear all the ideas I can.. wild-ass postulations are better for me to read because they expand my thinking even as I can reject 95% of their content, at least I learn what crossed the mind of others.. to know that others think differently is a fact in itself even if what they think is wrong... the more ideas on the table.. the more vetting the better then understanding for me of any situation..... try, fail, pick up the pieces and try again... but I ... I wouldn't want my surgeon using that approach while operating.

There was No need or good reason to make a careless guess "public" in a way that would hurt the reputation of an alias. I made a mistake...unforced mistake .. a mistake I will not make again because there is no reason to link aliases.... just plain dumb ...... athough if it were just kenny I think he'd like the attention of some ribbing... the --Biggest-- mistake was that I didn't think that if I was wrong, a more sensitive , self-reserved and polite person like yourself could be hurt by a mistaken association.

Maybe we should have a thread called, "Stuff I think Haley did wrong", then we can put everything there that we would have done differently if we were her.

If we're totally honest, I think, we should be giving for the music and not for the thank you. And in the end, that is how I feel, despite all that I might say about this and that.

Tusk, I am one of those you mention - thank you! - that have profited immensely from the videos, news and thoughts posted by you and all on team HF - I am one of those who do not have the chance to see her live until she tours Europe some day. Without you, and the others, I would not have this lifeline to her performances and new music. You have given me great joy through that work of sharing your enthusiasm for Haley's music. Maybe we just should do it because we decided to do it.

(04-07-2014, 11:20 AM)XAtlantic Wrote: Tusk, I am one of those you mention - thank you! - that have profited immensely from the videos, news and thoughts posted by you and all on team HF - I am one of those who do not have the chance to see her live until she tours Europe some day. Without you, and the others, I would not have this lifeline to her performances and new music. You have given me great joy through that work of sharing your enthusiasm for Haley's music. Maybe we just should do it because we decided to do it.

And it makes me feel good to hear, thank you, that has been my intention, that Haley should be given every opportunity to be heard by as many potential fans as possible, and to reach her potential.... I'm glad to know that I've helped in that manner...

From Haley's Indiegogo...

Quote:I've always felt deeply connected with my fans ever since I was on American Idol. They've all been here since day one and are still going strong! With this campaign, I hope to get everybody excited and attract new followers in the making.