(02-24-2013, 06:38 AM)Tusk Wrote: (02-24-2013, 06:25 AM)midnightblues Wrote: 
It would be awesom if some of these Newport business men would be willing to bankroll a privite label for Hales. That they could invest in Her
This was also discussed last night, but ultimately, in 'the business' world, there are dances that need dancing, 'T''s that need to be crossed, and contract experts whose job is to do what's best for the company and the artist.
I know of some that want to help badly, even if it means payrolling the artist. Problem is, when we talk about the amount of money that takes, sometimes it results in a feeling that something is 'owed' to the provider, even if they say that it isn't. It's human nature, if you are to invest that kind of money, eventually, someone will feel like there's obligation, whether it's verbalised or not, regardless of how altruistic your intentions are....it's human nature.
That's why contracts exist, the emotion is removed and there is clear deliniation of what is expected and what is provided.
In the smaller scale, lending someone $100 doesn't really mean much. When you talk about tens of thousands of dollars, maybe hundreds of thousands of dollars...then suddenly things are 'on the line'... some kind of 'return' will eventually be expected. It's human nature.
Maybe, I'm assuming incorrectly, but I have to think these business people are successful by making decisions that are more sound than to invest in an entertainer...especially in the climate the music business finds itself, and not to forget the losses due to piracy and illegal downloading as well as the legal hassles of protecting your intellectual property.... It's just not 'a sure bet', no matter how much you believe in the artist.
Over the years, the recording industry has seen a steep decline in profits and profitability for numerous reasons...these business people did not become successful by investing in an ailing industry that has seen better days.
All that Tusk says is true.
DAMN. I can't lay out a short explanation .. only less long "thoughts'
- charity works, business works. a muddle in between isn't good at either.
- poor contracts could actually impede future opportunities clouding control of assets.
- Promotion is as much about experts using their expertise and connections to push their favorites, than about their hard money investment. They can only get so much of the pie of air play as record companies and events need established artists to create the big buzz and maintain audience and some new artist spots need to go to other companies. Getting them to Invest their TIME and EFFORT is critical... without their commitment music that cost them nothng to make still doesn't go anywhere.
- Some types of "charity" help can still do wonders for peoples careers. In some, that is direct money contributions: few people going around to freinds and say.. this kid really needs tuition to this conservatory.. I'll put in 10k how about you do the same ? I had a close relative raise money for a concert quality violin for a kid of similar ancestry that needed a six figure instrument for the incremental sound quality to be a top-list soloist with a sound up to his award recognized skills
- Haley has gotten great music recorded , some unreleased and new ones on the way. She needs help more on the demand side than the investment in product side.. she certainly doesn't need a voice and thats her main product.
- Financial help is still important - Star quality clothing, costs thousands per outfit (rockers can get away with less maybe but Adam Levine's ripped t-shirts are probably 600$ a piece because, believe it or not, that fatiqued look and a fit that flatters his body probably isn't someting anyone could pull off. Frequent trips to top hair stylists are necessary. We're talking frequent salon bills that are a few hundred dollars easily.
- that financial help is probably provide best by finding her events that pay healthy appearance fee's and footing the bill behind the scenes - indirrectly.
- financial help through lending of use private planes etc would let her and band members appear at high profile charity events at far flung places in the country that she couldn't pull off financially otherwise.
- publicity by making her familiar to highest tier decision makers and producers is something well connected(and rich) people can pull off. Many of them attend 10k a plate political and charitable dinners regularly- large balls for pet cause lie "doctors without borders" etc. with types radio station owners and directors etc there. They often have some sort of program where a singer is used to define starts of things etc. Haley has been getting these sorts of invites, and showcases how good she is at them. (like I said before too, a person making a 50k donation can easily ask that Haley be the performer and maybe donate 55k and tell them to pay her a 5k appearance fee or something)
Of course its not just peole with money - money is one effective resourse to help but others do to:
- kids keep twittering.. that's a different side of the same coin
- connections aren't just financial... a contractor with a big lighting contract at a stadium can drop off a burned dvd with a yellow sticky to saying she sings the anthem great etc.
- Miguel is helping incrementally with this site - amateurs covering her songs help too I guess.
All that is being done already.. not an idea from me at all. But it is always good to encourage more of it I guess.
