So I saw Haley in LA today.....

[My Alter Ego]

Even though most don't know 'who" I am, my opinions are tied to "Tusk". We are technically 'annonymous', yet we still have an online identity. When I tried to post as "Q" to avoid trolls at Idoloonies, some long time Haliens still knew it was me . In other words, it's not easy 'not' being you.

Well, as one of those who recognized you (by another name), it didn't take a degree in rocket science to do so. Just 'cuz you posted under a different name doesn't mean that you curbed your enthusiasm for Haley or changed your writing style. But it was a good thing that you returned -- it was darned dull while you were "away."

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Buzz asked how much it would cost to have Haley at our own Haleypalooza. We would have to go through Haley's booking agency, CAA. (if she wasn't already in town and just stopped by)

Every story makes me more excited for Haley's future.

I think Miguel, Himm2 and to a smaller extent you, probably understand the 'adjustment' to what and how you post when your 'blogging profile' increases.... When you have info that is shared 'in confidence' that you can no longer post 'what you know' or be 'irresponsible' with what you post.. You've earned trust which means there are potential consequences to what you post... add a sprinkle of social media, like Twitter and those consequences might have real time impact. (see how something can get distorted with the recent 'Haley working with French songwriters' Twitter postings, on a small scale)

I have always tried to be consciencous about what and how I post from the beginning of posting over 2 years ago. That's why if you want to hit my sore spot, all you have to do is 'put words in my mouth' so I have to try to OTT explain myself just to refute it, again and again, combined with my OCD tendencies... ?

Even though most don't know 'who" I am, my opinions are tied to "Tusk". We are technically 'annonymous', yet we still have an online identity. When I tried to post as "Q" to avoid trolls at Idoloonies, some long time Haliens still knew it was me . In other words, it's not easy 'not' being you.

What I've learned from this rather unusual opportunity I was lucky enough to be invited to is, that my efforts to keep things positive (minus a few 'outbursts' ), and always trying to refocus things on Haley as well as being respectful, .... apparently that resonates with some people. I went from a guy in Seattle with opinions who discovered he had a penchant for posting, to a lucky SOB who is invited to a private party starring Haley in LA

My 'profile' increased at Idoloonies, and more when I befriended Himm2, which lead to a limited correspondence with Harry, to limited acknowledgement from Haley and so on....

I can only think this chain is predicated on levels of trust, since all anybody has to judge me on is what I post. Keeping my image offline unless I meet other Haliens in person meant that everyone else's opinions of me, have nothing to do with what I look like, my age, my ethnicity, only what I post.

There was a time I was a vocal opponent of "Stefaley", if you've noticed, I don't even 'go there' anymore. Why? Because I want it to be focussed on Haley, her talent and her career. Her personality, what makes her happy...who am I to judge who she calls friend?

It's about keeping things positive, looking forward, like Haley and the Reinharts do.

Any industry has aspects that are.... 'difficult' .... Like lawyers, they are disliked, until you need one . It's part of the system that you have to deal with.

There's a reason why they call it a 'negotiation'. There are reasons why it took 4 months. It wasn't easy. I am privy to some of how the negotiations went, some things that might be considered negative depending on your perception. Even revealing what I was told was the cost wouldn't factor in the demands and concessions of the negotiations. In otherwords, it would be irresponsible and probably inaccurate to post the amount without knowing the factors.

Might revealing the amount affect future negotiations? I guess it depends on who notices, but it might... which is why I had to preface my answer with the above about trust and the potential consequences.

I have accountability now to Harry, The Party's hosts and to a smaller extent, Haley, about being even more thoughtful what I post. The worse thing I can do is post something that might affect Haley's 'brand', what makes her so appealing to many of us, how her management negotiates and possibly any pending deals...

I guess the ultimate answer is there is no one price. Each negotiation has it's variables which affect the price. My hosts had to supply the location, AV and who knows what else, and that was outside of how much it cost to just hire Haley. Did they have to pay to fly Keith in and the hotels too? I don't know, maybe? Was that inclusive? No Idea.

If the article is true about Pia, I would have to think that the number of people attending is a factor to the $100K asking price. I was told there were 45 guests the other night, so maybe more will be attending for Pia. The article claims she turned down $50K, which is hard for me to believe not knowing how much of the $50K actually goes to Pia, or her reps...

I think Himm2's Idea is the strongest one. Schedule the gathering around an already existing Haley appearance in Chicago (Like we basically did last year at Lolla... Himm2, Babbs and me ). That way we don't have to be involved in any of the mechanics of the negotiations, we only have to pay for travel, lodging and admittance, we wouldn't have to clear it with the locals, hire security, provide refreshment and toiletries as well as a venue and AV set up....

All would be taken care of by the event in which she is appearing... Maybe Haley can have a meet and greet a day after (like @ Lolla)

Often times the simplest solution is the best solution

Sorry, I could think of no way to answer your question simply

Nice explanation, Tusk. Part of my job entails negotiating agreements, and while sometimes it can go really smoothly, there are other times that it will never work out. I think the course that Himm2 is taking is the wisest path.

And Sir Himm, I want to thank you for the work that you are engaging in to plan this. I was quite impressed with the "itinerary" that you had thought out in a short time. I know that you haven't asked for a "nose count" and may not do so in the future, please know that as much as I appreciate what you are doing, I will be one staying at home -- in part because of expense (I work for the state -- we haven't seen raises in going on 5 years now), but also because I'm an extreme introvert and this "do" sounds too overwhelming for me.