Halien Party - Chicago, Labor Day weekend, 8-31-13
01-02-2013, 07:08 PM,
#21
RE: My Alternate 2012 Universe
(01-02-2013, 06:48 PM)Tusk Wrote: The 'easiest'/least trouble way is to rent a banquet room like Nug talked about, (bars are out if you want to allow Haley's younger fans to be able to go).

As long as the party would be under 21, I could go!
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01-02-2013, 07:18 PM,
#22
RE: My Alternate 2012 Universe
(01-02-2013, 07:08 PM)Haleylvr4evr Wrote:
(01-02-2013, 06:48 PM)Tusk Wrote: The 'easiest'/least trouble way is to rent a banquet room like Nug talked about, (bars are out if you want to allow Haley's younger fans to be able to go).

As long as the party would be under 21, I could go!

your going no matter what 4 everBig Grin
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01-02-2013, 07:21 PM,
#23
RE: My Alternate 2012 Universe
I worked in the hotel/banquet business for almost two decades so I have a fair idea of the tertiary considerations for putting together an event like this, especially if you are talking about the numbers mentioned.

I also think the Reinharts and maybe Haley would be OK with a small, intimate group of 20 to 30 maybe 40.... when you start talking in the hundreds, then it becomes problematic, not to mention crowd control/security MUST be considered ....safety for antendees and the Reinharts cannot be overlooked.

I don't mean to be a downer, I just think that if anything like this were to go forward, these things have to be considered and if Himm2 were willing to offer assistance to that end, it would be unfair to load this type of responsibility on him without considering ALL the variables and parameters that he would have to tackle....it's not as easy as sending out some invitations

I tend to think the more people attending, the less 'friendly' or intimate it becomes, which might make the Reinharts think twice about being involved...

(We overthinkers can't help but overthink Tongue )
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01-02-2013, 07:45 PM,
#24
RE: My Alternate 2012 Universe
(01-02-2013, 07:21 PM)Tusk Wrote: I worked in the hotel/banquet business for almost two decades so I have a fair idea of the tertiary considerations for putting together an event like this, especially if you are talking about the numbers mentioned.

I also think the Reinharts and maybe Haley would be OK with a small, intimate group of 20 to 30 maybe 40.... when you start talking in the hundreds, then it becomes problematic, not to mention crowd control/security MUST be considered ....safety for antendees and the Reinharts cannot be overlooked.

I don't mean to be a downer, I just think that if anything like this were to go forward, these things have to be considered and if Himm2 were willing to offer assistance to that end, it would be unfair to load this type of responsibility on him without considering ALL the variables and parameters that he would have to tackle....it's not as easy as sending out some invitations

I tend to think the more people attending, the less 'friendly' or intimate it becomes, which might make the Reinharts think twice about being involved...

(We overthinkers can't help but overthink Tongue )

Well, duh -- go figure!Tongue

Years ago, I used to organize events (small scale) -- really loved it. But that was once a upon a time, many years ago... (And, yes, folks, if you think that last sentence sounds a line from a song, you are correct!)

Tusk, you're right. Something like this, particularly if the number of attendees was as large as some of the numbers that have been bounced around here, would require a great deal of effort to organize, and would likely have significant ramifications regarding the participation of the "guests of honor/stars of the show."
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01-02-2013, 08:38 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-02-2013, 08:52 PM by midnightblues.)
#25
RE: My Alternate 2012 Universe
(01-02-2013, 07:45 PM)My Alter Ego Wrote:
(01-02-2013, 07:21 PM)Tusk Wrote: I worked in the hotel/banquet business for almost two decades so I have a fair idea of the tertiary considerations for putting together an event like this, especially if you are talking about the numbers mentioned.

I also think the Reinharts and maybe Haley would be OK with a small, intimate group of 20 to 30 maybe 40.... when you start talking in the hundreds, then it becomes problematic, not to mention crowd control/security MUST be considered ....safety for antendees and the Reinharts cannot be overlooked.

I don't mean to be a downer, I just think that if anything like this were to go forward, these things have to be considered and if Himm2 were willing to offer assistance to that end, it would be unfair to load this type of responsibility on him without considering ALL the variables and parameters that he would have to tackle....it's not as easy as sending out some invitations

I tend to think the more people attending, the less 'friendly' or intimate it becomes, which might make the Reinharts think twice about being involved...

(We overthinkers can't help but overthink Tongue )

Well, duh -- go figure!Tongue

Years ago, I used to organize events (small scale) -- really loved it. But that was once a upon a time, many years ago... (And, yes, folks, if you think that last sentence sounds a line from a song, you are correct!)

Tusk, you're right. Something like this, particularly if the number of attendees was as large as some of the numbers that have been bounced around here, would require a great deal of effort to organize, and would likely have significant ramifications regarding the participation of the "guests of honor/stars of the show."

Lets take a vote IM in ( it's a starting point 0Big Grin If all that will show up is 10 Fans It it worth it???Idea
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01-03-2013, 09:29 AM,
#26
RE: My Alternate 2012 Universe
Lets take a vote IM in ( it's a starting point 0Big Grin If all that will show up is 10 Fans It it worth it???Idea

Well...my .02. While it would be great to meet a lot of fellow Haliens in a small setting, to move the needle for me to spend the $$$ to come to Chicago for several days, I would want to see Haley perform with a band in a bar/venue setting.

Maybe it is just a concert event with her Dad's band, in a local pub, as long as it was formally announced and a date set. The Haliens would all still be able to gather together and hopefully she would meet and greet folks too. Something like that seems possible, given her Dad's long time connections around town playing in bars/clubs.

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01-03-2013, 10:18 AM,
#27
RE: My Alternate 2012 Universe
(01-03-2013, 09:29 AM)rmd1064 Wrote: Lets take a vote IM in ( it's a starting point 0Big Grin If all that will show up is 10 Fans It it worth it???Idea

Well...my .02. While it would be great to meet a lot of fellow Haliens in a small setting, to move the needle for me to spend the $$$ to come to Chicago for several days, I would want to see Haley perform with a band in a bar/venue setting.

Maybe it is just a concert event with her Dad's band, in a local pub, as long as it was formally announced and a date set. The Haliens would all still be able to gather together and hopefully she would meet and greet folks too. Something like that seems possible, given her Dad's long time connections around town playing in bars/clubs.

This was along the lines I mentioned in Option 2. We're not set up to be the promoter of this event held locally in Wheeling. If 30,000 attended her homecoming at the Arlington Racetrack in the rain, albeit was free, then can 300 people be found in Chicago to attend a Haley concert with a cover charge? Someone (probably in Harry's network) should be able to figure out the upside of Haley performing at their establishment. So we add 25-30 of us from HF.com (private get together at Himm's also) to the mix and now how many Chicago natives would be willing to pay a $20-50 cover charge to hear Haley play multiple sets in her home town?
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300 to 500? Hiring security would have to be a consideration with those numbers

I think tops 80 to 90 might make the trip depending on the variables, and also enough advance notice would determine how many would go. The more notice given, the more people have the chance to plan for it. I just have my doubts as to how many would actually make the trip. I keep on going back to the 200,000+ twitter followers yet sales barely broke 60,000.

When it comes to following tweets with actual action, the numbers don't add up

Even with attendance of 100, that could be quite a feat of organizing if it were to happen at a residence: security, parking, hotel stay, refreshments, toiletries, clean up and so on., especially when you are talking about coordinating with so many from all over the US, if not the world...

The 'easiest'/least trouble way is to rent a banquet room like Nug talked about, (bars are out if you want to allow Haley's younger fans to be able to go).

But even then, someone would have to volunteer to foot the bill re: deposit/organizing/refreshments and that doesn't even go into getting some kind of confirmation or deposit from those who want to attend. In this circumstance, there is always the chance whoever foots the bill will be left holding the bag if people don't follow through and don't go or not pay...

It's quite a big responsibility to take on for anyone

Yes, I would say you were OT a little...I also did event planning. Venues have their own in-house planners for just these types of events. Rely on the locals for organizing...we can be part of the network promoting it though. I'm not sure why Haley would not want to perform in her home town in front of her fans for a paying gig...maybe you know? Dodgy
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01-03-2013, 11:25 AM,
#28
RE: My Alternate 2012 Universe
I think it would have to be done over a period of time that we know Haley might be home. for example, Christmas holidays, Thanksgiving, July 4th. She seems to be home a lot for holiday time. It would be harder for fans to come over holidays but she has been home for 2 weeks now, and it could be worked out I think.

I do agree 300 seems like a lot. There are a lot of lurkers here. ya never know who might come.

And I dont think people would mind paying. After all we've seen her for free for so long. We could call it a benefit for her or something. A private party at Himms is a good idea too! (sorry Himm) Our own Haleypalooza!! HeartHeart

In the end, we have to wait for Himm to get home. He's the main connection. I have to laugh thinking of him reading all this. hehe
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01-03-2013, 01:16 PM, (This post was last modified: 01-03-2013, 02:02 PM by Tusk.)
#29
RE: My Alternate 2012 Universe
(01-03-2013, 10:18 AM)buzzenator Wrote: Yes, I would say you were OT a little...I also did event planning. Venues have their own in-house planners for just these types of events. Rely on the locals for organizing...we can be part of the network promoting it though. I'm not sure why Haley would not want to perform in her home town in front of her fans for a paying gig...maybe you know? Dodgy
This began as a "small" gathering among HF in Himm's backyard with an informal invite for the Reinharts to attend...not a major concert gathering... That was what Patti said she thought would be fun and she would attend... Like the one Nug refered to with Melinda Dolittle...That's what I'm speaking of.

What you are now refering to is a much bigger event requiring the 'locals' participation and investment of time and money which they would have to volunteer as well as promote ...Dodgy Entirely different discussion and much more beyond our control to make happen... Undecided

(Besides, how to know who/how many will attend?...that affects venue size, how much to charge, security, parking etc... what if they prepare and spend money expecting say 2000, and only 50 show up?...or conversely, they set up for 300 and 1000 show? It would be the 'locals' taking the 'hit' if things go awry....)

For the 'locals' and their leaders to get involved, there would need to be a 'payoff' of sorts (money made), for their investment of time and money, and with the unanswered variables of number of possible attendees and venue size, convincing them to set it up won't be easy, if at all.
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01-03-2013, 01:54 PM,
#30
RE: My Alternate 2012 Universe
(01-02-2013, 08:45 AM)rmd1064 Wrote: I would totally make my first trip to Chi town for this!! Cool


The private party idea is not so far-fetched. Because weather could be an issue, I would not want to do it outside, say at HIMM's place. But of course, he could hold a pre or post concert party!

Maybe a club or venue in the Wheeling area would want to host it. (They don’t charge Haley for the space as they will make all of their revenue on the bar and the food) Because this would be a die-hard Halien event to support Haley, the ticket prices are high. But, let's say you find a club that can hold 300 people...and the price is $100 a ticket…that's $30,000. And, Haley and team could make up special T-shirts and other collectables from the event for some additional $$$. (“Haleypalooza 2013”) Maybe it becomes an annual event and gets bigger every year? Maybe she could add more local bands to the mix too…?

So…just spinning this idea out to the next level—as I tend to do with things..lol. But I know it would get a huge turnout of not only people on this forum but folks all over her hometown. I know I would make travel plans to visit the Windy City once something like this was set in stone and it would be great to have an official gathering of the Halien Nation in 2013….

^ I think some of us are talking more along these lines Tusk. If we are coming to Chicago it's not just for the polish sausage, we do want to hear Haley perform and more than a couple of songs. We're not going to get a guarantee that Haley will perform for 20-30 of us in Himm's backyard. If we do, then the big gathering is not needed. However, why is Haley performing in Himm's backyard? To be realistic it has to be a paying gig, and the more that pay the better for Haley. It seems logical that the event needs to be bigger to make it a worthwhile trip for Haliens.

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