Day 1, album #3?

[Tusk]

because I feel like there is nothing happening. No news, no updates, no new covers, videos.

I know you probably mean no "Official" etc....because I've been putting out videos from TeamHaleyFans consistently for ...months? feels like years

I know that's probably not good enough for some, but I'm trying to put out material to keep people interested....go look at my Youtube channel, my Instagram, I've been posting stuff consistently for quite a while, my vids, photos and from Ken, ISCAT, Babbs, airhigh, Pat, Himm2..... At times I wonder if I should stop

On the Other hand, what 'officially' has she posted any way? To say we've been getting consistent media from Haley is not accurate...if not for PMJ, if not for Casey, if not for TeamHaleyFans?

I hate to break it to you, waiting for something, officially, from Haley, has been what we've been doing the last 5 years.

Every other day for the past few years I've been working in one sense or other trying to post something to keep people's interest until something comes along.... in 2016 I've posted 145 videos including Haley, more of others....new Beatles' covers, first live song performances...

This is the thing....

Alot has happened for Haley this year, started last year...compare all that has happened 2015-2016 compared to all the years previous, 2011-2014. We've had a TON of movement compartively. NOTHING happened for Haley until she joined w/ PMJ, now people in Europe can see her, she's got charting songs, she's won awards for those songs, a major ad campaign etc....

and ALL doing it in an unconventional way.

Could it be that the crap way she was treated, the unfulfilled promises by Interscope, the zero promotion and support of Listen Up! The unceremonious dumping that probably left her owing money for advances she was given zero chance to recoup and repay, hit her that hard? 5 years later, she's still determined to rely on her choices, whether they're mistakes or not, they are HER choices, her mistakes, her gains....

Nobody but Haley and her Family knows
What we do know is she never burned a bridge, never caved in to calling any of her Idol experiences a mistake, she took all of her experiences into herself and was still able to manage an upbeat attitude, still treated EVERYONE with respect, fans, associates, business, Idol....everyone.

I doubt many of us could be so positive given what she's been through...

So PMJ comes along 2015-2016 Has been Major for her, her patience, positivity, trust, finally paying off, She's toured Europe twice, 3 or 4 times toured the US with PMJ..... a headlining tour.....meetings with Major movers and shakers, won awards....all in two year after nothing of 3. It's alot to take in.

Artists have to pull from something. Haley, if she is anything, is a TRUE artist. Lots of responsibilities, pressures and tests in the last two years...from what can she pull to inspire her song writing?.. does it make sense that she needs to take some time off to recharge her batteries? Does she need to figure out from where she wants to draw the inspiration for her next album?

That's how I see and hope this absence from media is about. A recharging of her musical soul. Having some personal time with a man she's clearly in love with, spending time with friends and family...which we know, friends and FAMILY, are extremely important to her, above most all else.

Finally....social media. I know alot of fans are anxious about her pretty much withdrawing from social media in the last couple months BUT can you blame her? During this election season where family turns on family, friends turn on friends, the future of our nation is being split in two, one side that brings out the worst in people to the point they have no shame in posting egregious, hateful racist comments?

Personally, some things I've seen posted by people I thought were intelligent, good people, made me rethink what is intelligent? what is good?

I myself have thought many times about unplugging...unfortunately, many of you know, I've got a compulsive personality, I've become addicted to constant social media, even though deep inside I long to not have to see what I see on it, I wish I could switch off, even for a day, a week, but I can't....so I sit in front of my PC and listen to and edit videos of Haley and other performers I support, bring a little positivity and creativity into my life to counter the negativity we see every day on all media.

Believe me, I miss seeing more than just the tweet from an instagram she has posted, but "In Haley I Trust" also includes that I trust she has to do what is right for her.

She has said she is working on a new album...we've seen pics of it.... As a song writer, she needs to be inspired, a clear head, to get in touch with herself. She's spent alot of time with people that mean something to her, soul filling activity. Given all I've posted above, how busy she's been touring, traveling, performing....the politics that has swallowed all media.... It makes sense she might have to disconnect.

I don't like that she seems to have withdrawn for awhile now, but I understand that an artist needs to draw from within themselves to express themselves to us....it makes sense to me, this is what she's doing...along with probably other business she has to take care of... Is she still negotiating with a label? Maybe tour plans? Who knows...but we do know she doesn't sit around because of the multiple times she'd surprise us with a new project (see CHFIL w/ Extra Gum Or F is For Family)

martindelbron please don't take what I've posted personally...not directed at you, just letting out some of what I've been mulling over during Haley's apparent absence. I've been trying to make sense of it as well, these are just some thoughts that have been running through my head. I think most if not all Haliens feel a little anxious because so little has happened after so much has happened

I know that I'm a 'homer' for Haley, I've never said otherwise, I do trust in Haley, I've met and talked with her several times and never has she done anything to damage my trust in her. Believe me, behind the scenes, and some know, I've had multiple opportunities to say "Fnck it! I'm done", but every time I watch her perform, talk with her for a few minutes, I remember what a sweet and real person she is. By no means is Haley perfect, she is however, human and will make mistakes, but the mistakes will be hers and she can learn from them.

Being famous yet valuing your privacy, determining your destiny without corporate 'help', Wanting to succeed and fail on your own terms, your career in writing music based on your life experience and emotion, keeping a positive outlook no matter what, always thinking of your future, wanting to take care of your family..... Haley has alot to think about but has been very busy for most of 2 years..... I think a break from the 'fame' and social media is not too crazy an idea?

This was posted just a month ago.....

haleyreinhart
Gettin groovy writing in the legendary Studio 3 at @eastweststudios with @rob_kleiner & @fancyhagoodofficial ... Where The Beach Boys, The Mama's & The Papa's, America, Blondie, Donna Summers, Stevie Knicks, Dolly Parton, The Stones, & SO many more have recorded!!! ?? #goodvibrations #godonlyknows #californiadreamin

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(I'm from Europe)

I don't know about you, but I'm so PSYCHED to see her perform in Europe...I'm hoping I can see her in the UK one more time, in keeping with the claim I made oh so many years ago at TVLine, the Brits will eat her up (She has 3 shows in England), they'll her. They LOVE her w/ PMJ

Seeing her w/ PMJ at the O2 was a dream, but seeing her in the UK, on her own tour, singing her own (new?) songs will be ecstasy

[lovinghaleyr]

TUSK: very well said,I could not agree more whit regard to Haley's decisions in her
artistic or private life.
Also we can learned whit Haley is to have patience because for her the word "soon"
can be a week,a month or the time she deems necessary to do it in the best way.
Haley is Haley and I accept her as she is.

[mercfan3]

Okay, we've learned that "soon" is most definitely not a week.

[john]

Can I ask if anybody here knows if Haley is currently working on her next album and that that is the reason why there hasn't been any updates, no nothing in what feels like months?

....Which I find verrryy frustrating, as I'm a huge fan and I really thought things were heading in a different direction with her. Cant help falling in love, PMJ, the album..she was creating a lot of buzz. And now it's as if it's all fading

With her PMJ success, the surprise of CHFIL, her AI appearance, the new album and her tour, a lot was happening this past year for Haley. But that has played out. She does have plans for a very short tour of Europe next year, although I assume there are a lot of unsold tickets at this point.

It is frustrating as Haley has made only small and perfunctory efforts to do anything to communicate with her fan base for months. Since she has pulled back from the public and faded from view it's hard to know what is happening -- hopefully she is continuing to work on some new music. Que sera, sera. One can only accept her as she is or not.

[NUG]

History shows December is quiet where Haley news is concerned

[Tusk]

History shows December is quiet where Haley news is concerned

Correct... not only that there are actually things we KNOW are coming in 2017....when has that really happened before? We know there will be a 3rd album. We know there will be a tour of Europe. We know there will be TEN new episodes of F is For Family.....think about that for a second...

I would not be surprised if she tours the US again in 2017....especially to support the 3rd album

[JMT]

I think Haley's in a great spot right now. I certainly don't know everything she's working on at the moment (maybe a few here have more details, and can't say), but time and time again over the past 5 years Haley has surprised us. I have complete faith that she will again. She's never been big on social media, and it's not like she's completely abandoned it the past few months.

Her accomplishments the past 1-2 years have been mentioned in this thread, so I won't repeat them. I will say that "raindrops make oceans", and I believe it's starting to rain for Haley. Think about it. Everyday tens of thousands of people watch her PMJ videos, and certainly many, many people are discovering her everyday for the first time. Some of her Better tunes are being played on Sirius XM. They're still playing CHFIL on the radio, at least in my area, and I've seen the shorter gum Ad played on TV recently. All of this is tremendous exposure, the kind we fans could only dream about a few years ago.

Personally, I'm really proud of the way she has handled herself and what's she's accomplishing. Is it frustrating to read the many comments on YT that go something like: "Why isn't this girl more famous?" Sure. But she's doing it HER way, and that's obviously very important to her.

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I would not be surprised if she tours the US again in 2017....especially to support the 3rd album

If we actually got a 3rd album and US tour next year, to me that would be an embarrassment of Haley riches.

[Himm2]

We know there will be a tour of Europe. We know there will be TEN new episodes of F is For Family.....think about that for a second...

Don't be surprised if Haley (Bill Murphy) has more of a limited role on the second season of "F is for Family". That's the drift I'm getting unless all the voice-over work isn't finished yet, but I think it has and they're just completing animation now.

It's Okay to take time to enjoy life and the simple pleasures with family & friends, it keeps you from having a nervous breakdown. In the last month I saw Haley performing in two cities only 8 days a part. hmmm...I'd love to hear her sing the Beatles classic "8 Days a Week".

Contrary to current politics, you don't have to make a fortune to be happily successful in life.

[Miguel]

History shows December is quiet where Haley news is concerned

When we first started following her post-Idol, we learned the recording industry pretty much shuts down between Thanksgiving and the end of the year. People have gigs to play or return home. Haley traditionally goes home and her family takes a vacation together. She returned early this year because of Mark and BC's wedding. Plus, she now has a serious relationship of her own.

I do think that all the things mentioned earlier gave momentum to Haley and suspect it opened up a new opportunity. I believe she's working on new material and would guess the timeline for its release is late Spring next year given the timeline we saw with Listen Up! and the new dates for Europe.

With Listen UP!, we never heard much from Haley before its release. It was primarily her collaborators use of social media that gave us a hint. There were one or two interviews that asked about it, but that was coming off of Idol with a record deal being public knowledge.

I saw this interview from 2012 the other day. I didn't recall seeing this before:

Q: As you pieced this album together, you worked with several different writers and producers. How did this affect your approach to the recording process?

A: Diving right into the process, that was a whole other ball game. I mean, you’re right. I was in a new city, first of all. I went from Chicago to L.A. So, here I am in Hollywood – driving to all these strange houses and studios. I had no idea what I was getting myself into each day. Let’s take Busby. He’s one of the very first producers that I met. We’d write the song and record it all in one day. Then the next day would be somebody completely different with a completely different song. That’s just how I worked for three months. I got about 30 tunes out, and then it became a pick and choose ordeal. The more and more I wrote, the easier it was to know which direction I wanted to go in, and the easier it became to just walk in without feeling nervous – just ready to work and get something good out.

http://allhiphop.com/2012/07/02/haley-re...-exposure/

[Tusk]

Artists have to pull from something. Haley, if she is anything, is a TRUE artist. Lots of responsibilities, pressures and tests in the last two years...from what can she pull to inspire her song writing?.. does it make sense that she needs to take some time off to recharge her batteries?

That's how I see and hope this absence from media is about. A recharging of her musical soul. Having some personal time with a man she's clearly in love with...

She's spent alot of time with people that mean something to her, soul filling activity.

drewdolan_
A little dirt never hurt...
#mexico #agradecido*

*grateful

tooling around Mexico in a VW bug... looks like the recharging is going very well