"Listen Up!" - Haley's first album
05-22-2018, 05:04 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-22-2018, 05:07 PM by Tusk.)
RE: "Listen Up!" - Haley's first album
Haley posted an Instagram story, thanking Haliens for reminding her of LU's 6th anniversary

https://twitter.com/HaleysTusk/status/99...4118753281
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05-22-2019, 11:58 PM,
RE: "Listen Up!" - Haley's first album
Quote:Haley ReinhartVerified account @HaleyReinhart 7h7 hours ago
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Is it obvious my 1st album Listen Up!was inspired by 1 of my all time fav movies?! Just call me #wendypeffercorn Wink #ListenUp turns 7 yrs young today & I’m proud to say I’ve released 3 more full length albums since its debut. What’s inspires you ? [Image: 1f52e.png]#throwback #retrobaby #sandlot

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05-23-2019, 10:46 AM,
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Regarding LU, I am still salty about that whole episode.  That CD was a terrific debut and to me Interscope just dropped the ball.  I am not sure why.  There were so many potential hit songs on that CD, from “Oh My” to “Undone” to “Hit The Ground Running”.   To me, they picked probably one of the weaker songs on the CD, “Free”, a mid tempo piano ballad that really does not showcase her voice.  (Surprise, surprise—it was the one song Haley and team did not write—so Interscope looking to make bank on that song.)  We were all hoping for a summer release of “Oh My”…but they dragged their feet and did nothing.  Eventually, around Thanksgiving, they released her amongst a bunch of other artists.  (Thanks Jimmy Iovine for sticking with trying to build a budding career—NOT!)  

Anyway, water under the bridge, Haley has risen above that and is now thriving, as an independent artist still making great and memorable music, seven years plus later.  As Haliens, that is all we really need…  (although love to see her holding a Grammy or two at some point, and selling out big arenas…smiles)
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05-23-2019, 11:23 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-23-2019, 02:17 PM by Tusk.)
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(05-23-2019, 10:46 AM)rmd1064 Wrote: (selling out big arenas…smiles)

Personally, I've never been a 'big arena' kind of fan....echoes, impersonal, you end up looking at one of several large HD monitor.....It was re-enforced to me how much I hated the experience when I saw PMJ at the Microsoft Theater....possibly the worst show experience I'd been to since I started following Haley.

Outdoor shows/festivals, fine, at least the music usually sounds great.

It's my opinion that Haley much prefers more intimate settings.  For those who weren't at the LFS Chicago show, the set up was near the front.  They had 6-10 sets of tables and chairs, lined up almost perpendicular to the stage, about 15ft-20ft away, then chairs, cocktail tables and booths behind those as the floor inclined up the further you were from the stage for good perspective of the stage.

The VIP guests took the tables and chairs at the front.  Haley performed the first two songs, then said something like, I don't want to be saying this all show, but you should come up to the stage, and waved for us to come up to the edge of the stage.

Haley likes to be able to connect w/ her audience, something taught to her by her parents, she's said that since Idol when she said she had to adjust to performing to the camera instead of to the audience where she likes to make a connection.

It's my opinion Haley prefers to play to smaller, mid-sized venues, maybe something w/ historical significance, for someone who appreciates music history and artists who went before her.

Setting herself with so many revenue streams, unlike other acts, she does not, will not, have to rely on touring all year to make the income she wants.  That's the beauty of the income base she's set up for herself, Ole being a major part of that, collecting her royalties and revenue.  If FiFF continues with more seasons, another revenue stream and on and on.  She does not have to play big arenas, fuel an entire industry, to consider herself a 'success'.

The Microsoft Theater was only worth it because I bought the VIP and was able to talk to Haley and the PMJ performers.  I would've considered it a waste of money to have made the trip to see Haley on a Big Screen Monitor, her voice echoing, and that was it?  No Thanks Tongue

I have said, and will continue to say, I don't know that Haley wants GaGa/Katy Perry type of career, I think she would consider herself a success if she had the career Norah Jones, Amy Winehouse, Joss Stone has.  She would consider herself a success if she can make a comfortable living with the ability to tackle anything her talent leads her to, taking care of her family, as well as  performing where and when she wants to.  I think accruing as much knowledge and experience as she can about the music business as she can would also be a mark of success in her mind.  I think a level of privacy is very important to her, the ability to still be able to walk around with friends, maybe encounter some fans...but not get mobbed and require security everywhere she goes.

She's a Beatles history expert, she must know one of the major reasons the Beatles stopped performing live (something Haley loves) is not only were they unable to hear each other at shows because of how loud things were, but touring for them was going from hotel room to car to plane to car to hotel room.  In every city.  Rinse and Repeat.  ABBA encountered the same thing and eventually stopped touring to only make studio albums, as the Beatles did.

I think Haley would hate being caged like that...that's not a career, that's not living, that's being paid to live in hotel rooms and not go outside :/
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05-23-2019, 12:08 PM,
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I agree Tusk.  I do not want Haley to turn into Ariana Grande or Katy Perry or Rihanna or Beyonce.  All that attention, all that exposure, haters, security issues, etc---it can get ugly.   And for the most part, their careers burn out once people once move onto the next thing.  Hello Meghan Trainor…..

Meanwhile, I also concur, Haley is in it for the long haul, being a working musician putting out memorable music for years to come—on her schedule.  The sky is the limit for her---she could do a straight jazz CD, a funky blues record, hell, even a country album.  And I do think she wants to emulate artists like Norah Jones, Neko Case, KT Tunstall, Jenny Lewis and similar artists that have a strong fan base who show up when she does her tours.  

I don’t think money is an issue for her—and that is good--she doesn’t have to tour 200 nights a year.  She is making money via commercials and the F is For Family gig.  She does corporate gigs, weddings, etc.  She now has her own record label, and could even put out other artists’ music.  And,  I think she will get into acting at some point.  

So, maybe it is good LU did not catapult her into the stratosphere of artists.  She was able to step back and focus on putting out great music over the last three CDs.  And as noted, she will be around for the long haul….for years and years to come…
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05-23-2019, 01:33 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-23-2019, 02:30 PM by Tusk.)
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(05-23-2019, 12:08 PM)rmd1064 Wrote:   

So, maybe it is good LU did not catapult her into the stratosphere of artists.  She was able to step back and focus on putting out great music over the last three CDs.  And as noted, she will be around for the long haul….for years and years to come…

Precisely!  

I know to some, I sound like a 'hater' or someone that doesn't want Haley to reach her greatest potential.  I'd think after the 7+ years I've put into promoting Haley would be proof enough that I'm 100% behind Haley, the Artist ?

It all comes down to what you think 'success' or 'reaching your potential' is.  As a student of music history taught by her folks, she probably is fully aware of the traps navigating a music career.  She learned the hardest way when she was unceremoniously ejected before her career even got a chance to start by Interscope.  (I still don't hate them as some do.  They gave us Listen Up!, allowed her to put her own songs on it, gave us a deluxe album w/ four more amazing songs, and gave us Lollapalooza Cool

I'm just trying to take a look at a bigger picture, as Haley surely has been by her activity.  The key to Haley's evolution to this point has revolved around what happened to her in her early career post Idol and signing w/ Ole, IMO two of the most pivotal moments that shaped Haley to who she is today, why she does what she does all the while building more and more of her self confidence and self reliance.  That is growth, that is moving to your greatest potential, the knowledge that in the end, when there's no one else, you know you can rely on yourself...that is the woman we see today in Haley.

I recall the first two shows I saw Haley, Spokane and the Listen Up! debut, she was surrounded by at least 3 security guards, all over 6 ft tall and huge surrounding tiny 5'2" Haley.

Burned into my memory is in Spokane, as security surrounded her to escort her out, I asked her if she was going to do Carnegie Hall w/ Irvin Mayfield, I clearly remember her looking through, in between two huge security guards, raising both her hands in a thumbs up gesture, big smile on her face and saying "Anthony, yes, it's a go" (paraphrasing Tongue )

They wouldn't even allow us to take a pic w/ Haley at the LU debut party 7 years ago, very strict

That could've been all our experiences meeting Haley, seeing her smile from behind heavy security.... no thanks :/
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05-23-2019, 01:45 PM, (This post was last modified: 05-23-2019, 01:50 PM by Tusk.)
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(05-23-2019, 12:08 PM)rmd1064 Wrote: I don’t think money is an issue for her—and that is good--she doesn’t have to tour 200 nights a year.  She is making money via commercials and the F is For Family gig.  She does corporate gigs, weddings, etc.  She now has her own record label, and could even put out other artists’ music.  And,  I think she will get into acting at some point.  

That's the thing all these 'well meaning' people who post as if Haley's hurting for money don't seem to understand, that she's already making a good living doing what she loves.

Can someone who's making no money finance their own tour, album and videos?  I know fans want what's best for Haley, but she's no longer some bright eyed-newbie- 20 year old.  She's had battle scars, disappointments to over come.... she has put in the work.  Her success now is what she, herself, has put into it.

Regardless, I'm not trying to 'shame' fans who want 'more' for Haley, I'm just sharing my perspective of it from what I've witnessed and experienced.  In the end, it's not my place to tell Haley what she should do because I'm fully confident in Haley the artist, I'm just here to soak in her brilliance and support her how I can... I'm certain if she wanted a ticket on the fast lane to fame, she'd have it in a heart beat.  But at what cost?  Her independence? Her instincts?  Her trust and self reliance?  Her Privacy?  Her Sanity?
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05-23-2019, 04:19 PM,
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After seeing Haley live for the first time last month, I tend to agree that small venues are where she would work best. Her showing up as a guest from time to time at someone else's arena performance might be fun, though (I think of the cheer she got when she "surprisingly" appeared during "Moanin'" during the Idols Live Tour).

And I've always been a little afraid of what would happen if Haley became a "superstar". Honestly, there is such a thing as too much attention. It'd be ok if she got a little bigger, though Smile
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05-23-2019, 05:16 PM,
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Definitely, Haley has so much more in front of her than behind her, a ton of potential and she should reach for it all.  I'm not saying she shouldn't try to be performing arenas if that's what she wants, my point in this discussion is more about looking at the bigger picture, what we can glean from what we know about Haley, what she's done, and what she says.  Only Haley knows what she wants, I could be completely off base, all we can do is speculate.

I will still fully support her if she ended up being GaGa big.... just I'd miss the intimate, personal experiences of smaller venues, those Room 5 shows were some of the best I've experienced out of all the shows I've seen, max capacity of 50 and you get to hear all the textures of her voice in clear crystal clarity Heart
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