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2020 could be challenging for Haley. What next?
12-11-2019, 09:50 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-11-2019, 10:03 AM by Miguel.)
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2020 could be challenging for Haley. What next?
2018 saw Haley writing and producing material for "Lo-Fi Soul." 
2019 saw her touring to support it and releasing covers on her own.

Haley on her Spotify numbers... 
Quote:Thank you guys. Seeing consistent growth in my content and numbers like this — gives me butterflies. I’m at nearly 3M monthly listeners and put out the most music I’ve EVER released in one year...

How can she maintain that momentum? To maintain interest she has to keep putting out new content. So it seems STEP ONE is continuing to release covers. This will give fans content while she works on original material. So...

A) What type of covers should Haley release?

B) Is there a particular type of original music she should pursue? 

C) Should she seek out new collaborators?

I recently listened to a book about Aretha Franklin. I was surprised at the number of covers she did. She charted for nearly four decades. Frequently they sought out producers with a current sound to create the arrangements. 
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12-11-2019, 09:55 AM, (This post was last modified: 12-11-2019, 10:01 AM by Miguel.)
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RE: 2020 could be challenging for Haley. What next?
In regards to B, this suggestion was made in the Spotify thread:

Quote:rmd1064

You know...one of these days, Haley should head to Nashville, works with some great writers, and release a country blues album...it would probably win CMA awards...

This might well apply to A. Haley could cover some songs in the country blues genre. This might lead to discovery of her on Spotify by country music fans. I think they might find her other music appealing too because much of it has a retro feel.
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12-11-2019, 01:56 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-11-2019, 01:59 PM by Rcul4u998.)
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RE: 2020 could be challenging for Haley. What next?
(12-11-2019, 09:55 AM)Miguel Wrote: In regards to B, this suggestion was made in the Spotify thread:

Quote:rmd1064

You know...one of these days, Haley should head to Nashville, works with some great writers, and release a country blues album...it would probably win CMA awards...

This might well apply to A. Haley could cover some songs in the country blues genre. This might lead to discovery of her on Spotify by country music fans. I think they might find her other music appealing too because much of it has a retro feel.

While I would continue to a be fan no matter what, if she did this, it is not something I would listen to, probably ever. And I'm also not a huge fan of her releasing a large number of covers all at once. I feel she did really well releasing the 3-song EP, the 3 Christmas singles, and Dreams this year, I'm not sure I would want another full album of covers after WTS, which is my least favorite project of hers (I only go back and listen to like 3 or 4 of the songs consistently).
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12-11-2019, 02:08 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-11-2019, 02:16 PM by Tusk.)
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RE: 2020 could be challenging for Haley. What next?
While in the other thread, I mentioned that DKHTLY could easily transition over to the country genre, IMO it doesn't seem like it's a genre she might throw herself into as much as she does Jazz, Rock, Pop, even blues.  I think declaring her independent artist status, highlighting that she has the freedom to release whatever song she wants when she wants, means what she'd be releasing she'd be 100% behind.  Haley's dabbled in country, I just don't see the same energy put forth in that genre, there's no history of it, as she does the other genres she does so well.

As I stated in the other thread, I do think it's possible a country singer might try putting a country twist to a song she's written.  Haley seems to like to write about different stages of relationships, heart ache, break ups...right in the country music wheel house Tongue

The thing I hope Haley puts the most effort into, in the coming year, is promotion and consistent support for what ever material she does release.

The singles she released this year, some didn't even get any promotion, or barely any, like "You Send Me" got zero promotion even though it was used for a clip on a UK reality TV show

Possibly my favorite Country act (outside of early Eagles) is the Dixie Chicks.  They are 100% country, but their music, song subject matter and performances put them at a higher level than most country music for me.  They stand out and are exceptional at their craft.  I would like if they decided to put a spin on one of Haley's songs, like how they re-invigorated "Landslide" Smile
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12-11-2019, 05:32 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-11-2019, 05:32 PM by Miguel.)
#5
RE: 2020 could be challenging for Haley. What next?
(12-11-2019, 01:56 PM)Rcul4u998 Wrote: I'm also not a huge fan of her releasing a large number of covers all at once. I feel she did really well releasing the 3-song EP, the 3 Christmas singles, and Dreams this year, I'm not sure I would want another full album of covers after WTS, which is my least favorite project of hers

Oh, I didn't mean to suggest a full album of covers. I was thinking of an EP to test the country market waters since she needs to put out content anyway. Probably a few more Christmas songs next year too. And another EP of something -- possibly some songs from the 1970s.
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12-11-2019, 05:38 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-11-2019, 05:39 PM by Miguel.)
#6
RE: 2020 could be challenging for Haley. What next?
(12-11-2019, 02:08 PM)Tusk Wrote: The thing I hope Haley puts the most effort into, in the coming year, is promotion and consistent support for what ever material she does release.

The singles she released this year, some didn't even get any promotion, or barely any, like "You Send Me" got zero promotion even though it was used for a clip on a UK reality TV show

I think the point of the singles is to raise exposure on Spotify and such by being discovered during searches or added to lists. They are in effect a promotion vehicle. Haley's voice gives her an advantage when it comes to being added to lists. 

I personally liked that she changed up the song "Bulletproof" so much, but I don't know if that helps in getting added to a list as the person putting it together might be looking for a song title they know because they're in a particular mood.
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12-11-2019, 05:59 PM,
#7
RE: 2020 could be challenging for Haley. What next?
Fairly sure that Haley had said the three singles she released were supposed to be part of a 3 song EP (Bulletproof, It Ain't Over Til It's Over & You Send Me) for some project that apparently fell through, they'd already recorded them so decided to release them...which kind of explains they got the minimal promotion, they didn't want to put more into it....

Haley said in an interview about what she'd learned the past year was that content is king.  While I sort of understand that strategy, I don't believe that was the thought when the 3 songs were released this year, they were recorded for a project that was never realised to it's final stage.
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12-12-2019, 12:23 PM, (This post was last modified: 12-12-2019, 12:24 PM by Nicicarus.)
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RE: 2020 could be challenging for Haley. What next?
I agree about the country blues route. I always thought Haley could excel with that if she made an album in the likes of ZZ Ward's sound. Contemporary bluesy country rock n soul. Its a hybrid mixture of genres that sounded great even to non country fans. Haley proved she could do it with "Blue". she can yodel, she can croon, belt, soar, etc. Her vocal gymnastics are what make her an overall talented singer. She could do a 6 song EP in that genre just to venture out and challenge herself. I still wish she recorded a compilation album of her popular idol covers. that would be nice to bring back old fans and she could re-imagine her versions and produce them to her liking. We still haven't seen full rock Haley, Jazz, Blues or dance/contemporary Pop. So far she's done retro pop, funk, ballad, alt rock, 70's covers, and her one off projects of jazz and electronic.
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12-12-2019, 03:06 PM,
#9
RE: 2020 could be challenging for Haley. What next?
I'd be OK if she chose to divert her interests in 2020 more toward acting or doing TV variety shows.
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12-12-2019, 03:32 PM,
#10
RE: 2020 could be challenging for Haley. What next?
Haley took classes before she delved more into the music business, then creating her own publishing company and record company.  If Haley wants to do more than a cameo, or playing herself, I'd like to see her take some acting classes too.  If she gets the opportunity for a big part, it'd be nice if she was as prepared for the challenge as she has been with music and her goals in the music industry.

She's networked w/ some pretty major actors in Hollywood, I think an opportunity is definitely possible, I'd just like to see her get the most out of it and be prepared as much as she can be when the opportunity opens up
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